Bugatti takes 0-62 crown from Ultima
Bugatti takes 0-62 crown from Ultima
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joust

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14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Wonder if Ted's going to continue the "power race" :D

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=11822
http://cars.msn.co.uk/carnews/carnews5sep05/

0-62 in 2.5s, 0-186 in 16.7s

J

GregE240

10,857 posts

296 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Engineering feat aside, lets consider for a moment:

Veyron: approx EUR 1 million
Ultima: considerably less than EUR 1 million

Still, an achievement nevertheless. I wonder when the VAG bug will bite, and they put this engine into a Passat?

Greg

stig

11,823 posts

313 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I think I could live with being .3 seconds slower for the extra dosh involved

joust

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14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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It is a folly somewhat, but in my eyes, a wonderful engineering folly!

Interesting is the maths in how many more BHP/lbft would it take for the Ultima to match or even better the record - surely it's not going to be that much more given the weigth of the Bugatti?

I presume getting the power down will start to become the issue and I assume the Bugatti's 4WD helps massivly there?

In someways it's very nice we live in a socitey that still allows this sort of thing to happen.

stig

11,823 posts

313 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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joust said:

In someways it's very nice we live in a socitey that still allows this sort of thing to happen.


I wouldn't hold your breath on that one though Jus!!!!

anniesdad

14,589 posts

267 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Sounds like a car for "Becks".

What's that? He's got one on order already?






feckin' fast though hey!....

joust

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14,622 posts

288 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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stig said:
I wouldn't hold your breath on that one though Jus!!!!
I know - depressing isn't it

GTRene

22,441 posts

253 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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But its a heavy weight with 1,888kg!(almost double) and double the cilinders, 16 instead of 8 from the Ultima.
But with that weight and torgue it must have some good brakes and clutch, I don't think it can do more then 2 fast laps around the "ring" in Germany, and I think the Ultima is faster there!
And I've heard, before the Bug wants to be faster then the Ultima, he has to stop!! and turn a special key!!to get that extra power? and when he brakes! he has to do that all again! stupid, that way the Ultima is already far away I say...

René

peterpsg

813 posts

263 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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I thought the best 0-60 that the GTR did was 2.7 seconds? So .2 slower, with 2 driven tyres, and 2/3 the bhp!

Also, what's the 100-0 time/distance of the VW vs the GTR?
I mean, with a 'typical' owner it will weigh over 2 ton!

Plus give the GTR an extra gear, and a bit more aero...

Tank Slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Has anyone turbocharged a chevy lump in an Ultima? I would have thought that 1000bhp would be quite achievable with a couple of blowers. The power to weight ratio would certainly be in the Ultimas favour, but traction might be an issue.

I wonder whether that twin bike engined thing would get close.

Edt

5,239 posts

313 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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for 0-60 and 100 times surely its traction thats the issue? Having been in BlueSatins GTR it's rarely a case of being under powered but a case of grip at the back.
Ed

G Man

4,053 posts

289 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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Gosh I had better sell my GTR and use the money as a down payment for 1 wheel

joust

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Monday 5th September 2005
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gtrclive

4,193 posts

312 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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S*** 1.9 Tons....... That means we still beat it in the BHP/Ton race......

BUGATTI (oh dear there goes my gearbox AGAIN) VEYRON 530 bhp/ton
Gareth (The mad man) Pitts 650 bhp/ton


So now they have to try and turn that 1.9 Tons round a 200ft skid pan......

GTRene

22,441 posts

253 months

Monday 5th September 2005
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gtrclive said:



So now they have to try and turn that 1.9 Tons round a 200ft skid pan......


yeah, like to see that happen on film we could use those for the bloopers....
I bed it stll will lose the 0-100-0 time set by the WR ultima GTR...

by the way, nice Ultima GTR for sale you have! when you asked 45.000,- in euro's I would buy it...çan't spend it in GBP sadly but I like your car even in RHD but I hope to buy a second hand LHD this year or at least next year...
René

craig-ultima

243 posts

262 months

Tuesday 6th September 2005
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Impressive engineering. I don't know if I really like the body work though. It certainly stands out, but it sort of looks like its made up of two separate cars.

But, if Bugatti would like to lend me one for a few months so I can make a final opinion, I be certain to be fair....

d3vine

699 posts

297 months

Wednesday 7th September 2005
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0-150mph in 10.9 secs
0-180mph in 14.8 secs

www.ultimacars.com

I think this is the 534bhp version.