National B - renewel - after 4 years!??? help

National B - renewel - after 4 years!??? help

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dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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So, i am wondering do i need to do my ARDS again in order to get my National B race license again!?

I last had one in 2007?

seems crazy to have to take the ARDS again, seeing as i held one for 5 years but hadn't renewed....

anyone know if I do?

cheers

kimducati

359 posts

171 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Its all in the blue book, but as far as I remember, theres a 5 year 'limit' between renewals.
This was for Nat A, but guess its the same.
Kim

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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ah right, could someone check the blue book ,as i don't have one anymore!

that would be very handy though!

smile

AndyMil

183 posts

206 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Looks like you might have just timed it wrong;

"A competitor who held a National ‘B’ Race
licence in any one of the years 2008, 2009 or 2010 may
renew it for a 2011 National ‘B’ Race licence."

Blue book is available to all online, although at present it is the 2010 version!!



Edited by AndyMil on Wednesday 16th March 19:23


Edited by AndyMil on Wednesday 16th March 19:24

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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bugger

i had one in 2007, not 2008

frown

looks like i'd have to waste £300 on the ARDS again! grrrrrr

Edited by dank on Wednesday 16th March 19:26

reedy

19 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Just going through this myself. Last had a Nat A licence in 2004. Had to do the written part of the ARDS test again (and watch the Steve Deeks video!). Need a medical as I am getting on a bit. You can download the forms from the MSA website once you have registered. You do not need to buy the 'Go Racing' pack. Give the MSA a call; they will sort you out.

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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ah right, so you don't need the driving part again, or the tuition?

how much has this cost you, and where did you retake the test, I did myn originally at Silverstone, but their cheapest half day ARDS is £299!


reedy

19 posts

246 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Did mine with Everyman Motorsport. They are based at Mallory, but I actually sat the test in a shed at Hoton Park Driving Centre near Loughborough. It was about £140. No tuition (except from Steve Deeks). I also go straight back to Nat A; don't have to go through Nat B again.
Also, if you ring the MSA, be sure to clarify exactly what you need to do. They initially gave me incorrect info regarding the medical.

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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ah right ok, I'll give them a bell tomorrow

cheers

jagracer

8,248 posts

243 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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reedy said:
Just going through this myself. Last had a Nat A licence in 2004. Had to do the written part of the ARDS test again (and watch the Steve Deeks video!).
How long has this been so? My uncle packed in racing in 1965, in 2001 he produced his old licence to the MSA and he got a new Nat A. All he needed was the medical.

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Really!?


dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Just spoke to a very helpful chap at MSA and he said the following

If I can prove that I competed and completed ( not DNF ) 6 races within the space I held the race licenses ( 5 seasons!! ) then all I'd need to do is complete the written part of the ARDS test which he said would cost around £40, and could be done at Brands Hatch for instance. He then said print off the result sheets for the races i competed in and send with application and proof of written completion of ARDS and I can get my National B again and don't need to go through the whole process!

He essentially said it's because I would have been eligible for my National A, seeing as I had competed so much in the years passed!

splendid

smile

jagracer

8,248 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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If you can prove you did 6 races then they should give you a Nat A and I really don't see any need to do the written part again.

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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i competed in probably 20-25 races in the 5 seasons I raced !
:-/

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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dank said:
Just spoke to a very helpful chap at MSA and he said the following

If I can prove that I competed and completed ( not DNF ) 6 races within the space I held the race licenses ( 5 seasons!! ) then all I'd need to do is complete the written part of the ARDS test which he said would cost around £40, and could be done at Brands Hatch for instance. He then said print off the result sheets for the races i competed in and send with application and proof of written completion of ARDS and I can get my National B again and don't need to go through the whole process!

He essentially said it's because I would have been eligible for my National A, seeing as I had competed so much in the years passed!

splendid

smile
Even if you have to do the driven test again you can do it at brands hatch quite cheaply, just pay for a hours tuition and they will access you at the same time.

dank

Original Poster:

1,157 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Not sure I'd want to be accessed in public!

wink

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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jagracer said:
If you can prove you did 6 races then they should give you a Nat A and I really don't see any need to do the written part again.
.... the reason being, some of the flag signals have changed over the years, also start line procedure, ........... it is to ensure he is familiar with the current requirements! HTH

P.S. ..... the current cost generally is £50,.... I would offer to do it for you, but I doubt that you would want to travel to Middlesbrough!

dank

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1,157 posts

259 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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what;'s the diff with start line procedure ?
new flags, being the false start and no overtaking flags?

PabloTeK

1,073 posts

182 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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dank said:
what;'s the diff with start line procedure ?
new flags, being the false start and no overtaking flags?
This is the Blue Book for 2011 as found on the MSA site: http://www.msauk.org/site/cms/contentviewarticle.a...

Apparently the old batenburg flag and the false start are for karting only nowadays.

ginettajoe

2,106 posts

225 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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dank said:
what;'s the diff with start line procedure ?
new flags, being the false start and no overtaking flags?
..... that is exactly the reason you have to do the written test, ....... a race start is now after the red lights have gone out, NOT after the reds have gone out, and the greens come on!!