Historic F1 at Brands Hatch

[delS1]

Couple of pics from Historic Racing at Brands Hatch yesterday. What a day, there were some awsome classic F1 cars in attendance the sound was it must have been amazing to see F1 cars racing at Brands back in the day.



















delS1

Edited by delS1 on Monday 31st May 15:28

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Edited by delS1 on Monday 31st May 16:29

[Trev450]

Nice pics. And yes it was great to watch them racing in their day. Old age doesn't have many advantages but watching these along with Group B rally cars makes it worth it.

[delS1]

Thanks Trev,

There's a photo in one of the shop windows at Brands which shows the start of a Grand prix I'm guessing in the 80's and the F1 cars are like those at Brands yesterday. What a spectiacle it must have been.

delS1

[Gizmo!]

I've been there all weekend Always great to see all the different classes, and to be able to wander around the pits/paddock... Like the good old days (that I'm too young to remember).
The 70s/80s F1s were more numerous last year; today's race only had a dozen of them due to various mechanical maladies. Last year they had the 60s F1s too, not sure why they weren't there.
Great weekend though, I've got hundreds of pics to sort out!

[Red Firecracker]

Fantastic days racing today.

Nasty prang in the first race, but apparently the drover is stable and injuries are non-life threatening.

[elms]

Red Firecracker said:

Fantastic days racing today.

Nasty prang in the first race, but apparently the drover is stable and injuries are non-life threatening.

I missed the accident, but by all accounts it was a particulary bad one. Lets hope your right, took over an hour to get him out of the car.

[Piglet]

elms said:

Red Firecracker said:

Fantastic days racing today.

Nasty prang in the first race, but apparently the drover is stable and injuries are non-life threatening.

I missed the accident, but by all accounts it was a particulary bad one. Lets hope your right, took over an hour to get him out of the car.

Red Firecracker is indeed correct based on the current update.

As for the length of time to extricate, I always work on the basis that the longer it takes to get a driver out the better, it indicates that their basis life systems are working sufficiently that there is time to protect the spine. It's the scenario where the ABC's take precedence potentially to the detriment of any spinal injury that is much more worrying.

[chevronb37]

Guys, who crashed at the weekend? Sounds worrying, especially after that horrific accident at last year's Superprix (different meeting I know) involving the BRM P154.

[Robert C]

Hope you don't mind me adding a few pictures I took on Monday. I took some while to go through the masses I took.





















I will be loading more to my flickr stream shortly!

Robert

Edited by Robert C on Wednesday 2nd June 14:28

[Red Firecracker]

Piglet said:

elms said:

Red Firecracker said:

Fantastic days racing today.

Nasty prang in the first race, but apparently the drover is stable and injuries are non-life threatening.

I missed the accident, but by all accounts it was a particulary bad one. Lets hope your right, took over an hour to get him out of the car.

Red Firecracker is indeed correct based on the current update.

As for the length of time to extricate, I always work on the basis that the longer it takes to get a driver out the better, it indicates that their basis life systems are working sufficiently that there is time to protect the spine. It's the scenario where the ABC's take precedence potentially to the detriment of any spinal injury that is much more worrying.

Picture from todays Telegraph;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/p...

'kinnel!

However, in the thread over on 10Tenths, there is very good news;

http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1...

John's legs have been pinned but his feet, ankles and knees are fine and he has been on his feet already.

[Piglet]

'Kinnell indeed and that photo was BEFORE the whole thing erupted in flames as it came to a halt!

[Red Firecracker]

There's a sequence here;

http://www.rexfeatures.com/set/1188828

[chevronb37]

Oh fk. That is horrific. Two drivers injured and two Can Am cars comprehensively destroyed in the space of a year at Brands. Brings tears to the eyes.

[Trophybloo]

I was standing on the path between the pits and the tunnel so saw JG pass the start line but the accident was over the crest out of view I just saw the dust and flames. So glad that he's been patched up with a seemingly good prognosis.
As a result the Sports Masters and F1 Masters races were both cut to 20mins from 30. The Gentlemen drivers 2 hr procession however remained uncut. Is it me or did anyone else think they'd paid there money for the main events and were disappointed at the timetable re-jig?
BTW my pics are back from processing on Friday eve so I'll post some then.

Edited by Trophybloo on Thursday 3rd June 16:01

[Piglet]

Trophybloo said:

As a result the Sports Masters and F1 Masters races were both cut to 20mins from 30. The Gentlemen drivers 2 hr procession however remained uncut. Is it me or did anyone else think they'd paid there money for the main events and were disappointed at the timetable re-jig?

You can't please everyone. Whatever happened there were going to be people disappointed. 90 minute holes in timetables have to be plugged somewhere.

[Trophybloo]

Piglet said:

Trophybloo said:

As a result the Sports Masters and F1 Masters races were both cut to 20mins from 30. The Gentlemen drivers 2 hr procession however remained uncut. Is it me or did anyone else think they'd paid there money for the main events and were disappointed at the timetable re-jig?

You can't please everyone. Whatever happened there were going to be people disappointed. 90 minute holes in timetables have to be plugged somewhere.

Agree, but the 2hr event at the end of the day saw most of the crowd leaving an hour before the finish. The World Sportscar Masters and the F1 Masters were the reasons most of the paying public were there. They were not attracted by the Gents in their toys who used up 2hrs 35 mins of track time on the day. Leaving the 'feature' races at the scheduled 30mins and reducing the last race to 1 hr 40 mins would have been fairer on the spectator IMHO. It wasn't the best bank holiday weather I've ever experienced and delays are always likely (happens at the Revival too) but a number of people will have been left flat by the way the day petered out. Surely we want to avoid that when the leisure buck has so much competition for its destination.

[Piglet]

Trophybloo said:

Piglet said:

Trophybloo said:

As a result the Sports Masters and F1 Masters races were both cut to 20mins from 30. The Gentlemen drivers 2 hr procession however remained uncut. Is it me or did anyone else think they'd paid there money for the main events and were disappointed at the timetable re-jig?

You can't please everyone. Whatever happened there were going to be people disappointed. 90 minute holes in timetables have to be plugged somewhere.

Agree, but the 2hr event at the end of the day saw most of the crowd leaving an hour before the finish. The World Sportscar Masters and the F1 Masters were the reasons most of the paying public were there. They were not attracted by the Gents in their toys who used up 2hrs 35 mins of track time on the day. Leaving the 'feature' races at the scheduled 30mins and reducing the last race to 1 hr 40 mins would have been fairer on the spectator IMHO. It wasn't the best bank holiday weather I've ever experienced and delays are always likely (happens at the Revival too) but a number of people will have been left flat by the way the day petered out. Surely we want to avoid that when the leisure buck has so much competition for its destination.

The interests of the paying public and the paying competitors have to be balanced and, as I say someone will always be disappointed. These decisions were made by the Masters Organisation and they know their competitors and their view was obviously different to yours.

[Red Firecracker]

More fool them for leaving. The final bit of the gentleman race was quite tense, very entertaining.

[Trophybloo]

Red Firecracker said:

More fool them for leaving. The final bit of the gentleman race was quite tense, very entertaining.

If you mean the Monteverde E-type / Lotus XI 'duel' then I should get some beta blockers if you found that 'tense'. There is a perfect vehicle for the paying owner, its called a track day, simply Masters got the balance wrong (IMV). Apart from Jackie O a significant number of the drivers in the Gent race were also participants in the 'main' events. If the needs of the crowds aren't given more weight then the Doc may be looking for a more lucrative use of a Bank Holiday venue.
Some pics

[Red Firecracker]

Trophybloo said:

Red Firecracker said:

More fool them for leaving. The final bit of the gentleman race was quite tense, very entertaining.

If you mean the Monteverde E-type / Lotus XI 'duel' then I should get some beta blockers if you found that 'tense'. There is a perfect vehicle for the paying owner, its called a track day, simply Masters got the balance wrong (IMV). Apart from Jackie O a significant number of the drivers in the Gent race were also participants in the 'main' events. If the needs of the crowds aren't given more weight then the Doc may be looking for a more lucrative use of a Bank Holiday venue.

You seem to have a real bee in your bonnet about this for some reason. Are you connected in some way?

Maybe tense was the wrong word. However, I and my companions, all regular race go-ers, found that engagement a good battle that readily held the interest as well as the other action throughout the field. Maybe it helps that I can find enjoyment and entertainment from a drivers actions without them actually performing an overtake.

I had absolutely no issue with the rejigged programme and enjoyed a full day of motorsport for a very reasonable price. It's also nice that Brands serves pretty decent coffee as well.

Thanks for the offer of improved medication, I think I'll pass.

Edited by Red Firecracker on Saturday 5th June 09:00