Sprinting question?
Discussion
Hi there
I was just wondering if anyone would know if a standard mk2 golf gti 16v (139bhp) be competitive in the production class of sprinting?
Also, without saying "check out the blue book" can anyone give me an idea as to what modifications are allowed in production class, just roughly.
thanks for your time
JayJ
I was just wondering if anyone would know if a standard mk2 golf gti 16v (139bhp) be competitive in the production class of sprinting?
Also, without saying "check out the blue book" can anyone give me an idea as to what modifications are allowed in production class, just roughly.
thanks for your time
JayJ
for starters you would be in 1400-1800cc sports and saloons so up against things like Elises. therefore you may not be that competitive but sprinting is really about having fun and not collecting trophies, you shouldnt be too far off the pace though.
as for mods, this is from the ASWMC website and broadly in line with other championships in the UK, you will most likely be on list 1a tyres. you wont need an extinguisher or harness but the latter is highly recommended. marshals will run quickly towards a fire on account of having had nothing to do for hours on end...
engine:
same position
cylinder block and head as original material
same number of vavles
intake/exhaust free
gearbox:
casings as original
ratios and final drive free
suspension:
same type/method as original
shocks free
modifications to antiroll bars is allowed
body:
as original silhouette above centre line of wheels
panels as standard
interior:
Removal of seats and interior trim (with the exception of carpets/floor mats), is prohibited.
Front seats may be replaced by fully trimmed "competition" seats. Rear seats must remain as original and be fitted.
Windscreen may be replaced by one constructed of laminated glass. The construction material of all other windows may not be changed and the opening mechanism, as specified by the manufacturer, must remain fitted and be operable.
Internal safety roll-over bar(s) may be fitted, but no suspension loads may be fed into them.
as for mods, this is from the ASWMC website and broadly in line with other championships in the UK, you will most likely be on list 1a tyres. you wont need an extinguisher or harness but the latter is highly recommended. marshals will run quickly towards a fire on account of having had nothing to do for hours on end...
engine:
same position
cylinder block and head as original material
same number of vavles
intake/exhaust free
gearbox:
casings as original
ratios and final drive free
suspension:
same type/method as original
shocks free
modifications to antiroll bars is allowed
body:
as original silhouette above centre line of wheels
panels as standard
interior:
Removal of seats and interior trim (with the exception of carpets/floor mats), is prohibited.
Front seats may be replaced by fully trimmed "competition" seats. Rear seats must remain as original and be fitted.
Windscreen may be replaced by one constructed of laminated glass. The construction material of all other windows may not be changed and the opening mechanism, as specified by the manufacturer, must remain fitted and be operable.
Internal safety roll-over bar(s) may be fitted, but no suspension loads may be fed into them.
I entered the first round of the TWMC all circuit sprint championship on sunday in the standard production class in a clio 172 and loved it.
The class I entered was for up to 2.0 N/A cars. With the elise's and exige's moved to a different class.
Can confirm its great fun and well worth a go.
The class I entered was for up to 2.0 N/A cars. With the elise's and exige's moved to a different class.
Can confirm its great fun and well worth a go.
some events have a "limited production" class too to cater for things like the elises and exgies. personally i think this just confuses matters and sympathises with the drivers of slower and older cars too much.
i always think that sprinting is just for fun and is about getting people interested in competitive motorsport and that anyone who kicks up a big storm about class structure is just after more trophies for their mantlepiece. i agree that, for example, an elise vs a vw golf isnt that fair but its not F1...
i always think that sprinting is just for fun and is about getting people interested in competitive motorsport and that anyone who kicks up a big storm about class structure is just after more trophies for their mantlepiece. i agree that, for example, an elise vs a vw golf isnt that fair but its not F1...
the point about not being competitive isnt strictly true imho, you will be competitive against your own times during the day/last time you visited the same venue, and you will pick a couple fo cars with similar times to yours from other classes and see how you compare on the next run or event. the whole point of any competition is to improve relative to a set yardstick. just ensure you set your own yardstick
sprints/hills are about competition, i just suggest you dont pressurise yourself and enjoy the day and you will soon find a level that you are happy to be competitive at.
if you dont like competition, do trackdays, no timing allowed and lots of tracktime
sprints/hills are about competition, i just suggest you dont pressurise yourself and enjoy the day and you will soon find a level that you are happy to be competitive at.
if you dont like competition, do trackdays, no timing allowed and lots of tracktime
CNHSS1 said:
the point about not being competitive isnt strictly true imho, you will be competitive against your own times during the day/last time you visited the same venue, and you will pick a couple fo cars with similar times to yours from other classes and see how you compare on the next run or event. the whole point of any competition is to improve relative to a set yardstick. just ensure you set your own yardstick
sprints/hills are about competition, i just suggest you dont pressurise yourself and enjoy the day and you will soon find a level that you are happy to be competitive at.
if you dont like competition, do trackdays, no timing allowed and lots of tracktime
ok, at the end of the day, it is all about competition, but i have seen people spend lots of money in an attempt to win a class for road going cars which to me, defies the point of it. my argument was more, if you are new to it, dont worry about the other cars in the class and whether your (undeveloped and standard) car is going to be any good, just try to beat your own time (which i acknowledge I failed to mention!) and meet some like minded people... sprints/hills are about competition, i just suggest you dont pressurise yourself and enjoy the day and you will soon find a level that you are happy to be competitive at.
if you dont like competition, do trackdays, no timing allowed and lots of tracktime
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