removing competition number when driving on the road?
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Hi,
I'm sure I remember reading (ah the trusty blue book) that I need to remove competition numbers when driving a race car on the road.
Anyone know why this is? I can't see how they would be dangerous or confusing for anyone...?
Assuming they do need to be removed, can any with more experience than I recommend the best way of making them removable or coverupable
thanks
Shane
I'm sure I remember reading (ah the trusty blue book) that I need to remove competition numbers when driving a race car on the road.
Anyone know why this is? I can't see how they would be dangerous or confusing for anyone...?
Assuming they do need to be removed, can any with more experience than I recommend the best way of making them removable or coverupable
thanks
Shane
RetroWheels said:
Does not a diagonal slash of 3" tank tape , over the numbers,do the trick ?
Sure i've seen this done on Historics .... i could be typing gibberish though , as it's late, and tuesdays is White Burgundy night
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I think the wording says something like it should be removed or obsucured? Basically, I think if you've crossed it out then it can't be mistaken that you're competing in an event on the public roads and you'll be ok.Sure i've seen this done on Historics .... i could be typing gibberish though , as it's late, and tuesdays is White Burgundy night
.It's an MSA ruling as it could be deemed that you are bringing the sport into disrepute or something similar if you were involded in an accident - it wouldn't reflect well on motorsport.
What I do on my racer is get a couple of bits of vinyl or big blank stickers and then use electrical tape to keep them in place and therefore it's easy to take the sticker/vinyl off when needed. I'm not sure if strike-throughs are considered good enough, maybe check with the MSA.
What I do on my racer is get a couple of bits of vinyl or big blank stickers and then use electrical tape to keep them in place and therefore it's easy to take the sticker/vinyl off when needed. I'm not sure if strike-throughs are considered good enough, maybe check with the MSA.
GBRM said:
It's an MSA ruling as it could be deemed that you are bringing the sport into disrepute or something similar if you were involded in an accident - it wouldn't reflect well on motorsport.
What I do on my racer is get a couple of bits of vinyl or big blank stickers and then use electrical tape to keep them in place and therefore it's easy to take the sticker/vinyl off when needed. I'm not sure if strike-throughs are considered good enough, maybe check with the MSA.
Strike-throughs seem to be tolerated, but I'm sure they'd prefer the better approach of blanking them off completely.What I do on my racer is get a couple of bits of vinyl or big blank stickers and then use electrical tape to keep them in place and therefore it's easy to take the sticker/vinyl off when needed. I'm not sure if strike-throughs are considered good enough, maybe check with the MSA.
The black tape strike solution is not accepted by the MSA.
When my car was running rough at Doune this year I went for a run with strips of black tape covering the numbers and got a telling off from the MSA chief scrutineer up from Englandshire. He said that the numbers had to be fully obscured. I now use a4 sheets that can be taped over the numbers. The car also had to be scrutineered again after leaving the event for 5 minutes incase I had installed a turbo or swapped the engine...
There has also been an instance of the cops pulling over a chap in Scotland and accusing him of racing on the road with the numbers in place. I suppose you are drawing even more attention to yourself and therefore a good target for the plod.
When my car was running rough at Doune this year I went for a run with strips of black tape covering the numbers and got a telling off from the MSA chief scrutineer up from Englandshire. He said that the numbers had to be fully obscured. I now use a4 sheets that can be taped over the numbers. The car also had to be scrutineered again after leaving the event for 5 minutes incase I had installed a turbo or swapped the engine...
There has also been an instance of the cops pulling over a chap in Scotland and accusing him of racing on the road with the numbers in place. I suppose you are drawing even more attention to yourself and therefore a good target for the plod.
GBRM said:
It's an MSA ruling as it could be deemed that you are bringing the sport into disrepute or something similar if you were involded in an accident - it wouldn't reflect well on motorsport.
What I do on my racer is get a couple of bits of vinyl or big blank stickers and then use electrical tape to keep them in place and therefore it's easy to take the sticker/vinyl off when needed. I'm not sure if strike-throughs are considered good enough, maybe check with the MSA.
You can gues what I have done with my two TR races for the last 2 years or so;)What I do on my racer is get a couple of bits of vinyl or big blank stickers and then use electrical tape to keep them in place and therefore it's easy to take the sticker/vinyl off when needed. I'm not sure if strike-throughs are considered good enough, maybe check with the MSA.
Well I have driven a race car with numbers on it past a number of police cars on the road - No problem whatsoever. Clearly if I was doing more than the speed limit or something else then I would have been stopped.
Lets face it once you are outside the gates of a race circuit what authority does the MSA have over what you do on the public highway - none! If its not against the RTA then do what you want would be my suggestion.
Whats stopping me putting numbers on the side of my road car if its not against the RTA?
Lets face it once you are outside the gates of a race circuit what authority does the MSA have over what you do on the public highway - none! If its not against the RTA then do what you want would be my suggestion.
Whats stopping me putting numbers on the side of my road car if its not against the RTA?
MGRacer said:
Well I have driven a race car with numbers on it past a number of police cars on the road - No problem whatsoever. Clearly if I was doing more than the speed limit or something else then I would have been stopped.
Lets face it once you are outside the gates of a race circuit what authority does the MSA have over what you do on the public highway - none! If its not against the RTA then do what you want would be my suggestion.
Whats stopping me putting numbers on the side of my road car if its not against the RTA?
Exact Loads of estate agent (Foctons have) numbers on.Lets face it once you are outside the gates of a race circuit what authority does the MSA have over what you do on the public highway - none! If its not against the RTA then do what you want would be my suggestion.
Whats stopping me putting numbers on the side of my road car if its not against the RTA?
It is all cobblers.
I drive my racers out of the track to test things up the road and never been and issue.
A NON ISSUE.
I'm not agreeing with it being an issue or not being an issue but I was always under the impression that the MSA can revoke your license. A bit like the management reserving the right to refuse entry to a pub/club, if the MSA don't think you're fit to hold a competition license then they can take it off you.
I think I'll have a scan through the blue book and see what it actually says.
I think I'll have a scan through the blue book and see what it actually says.
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