Racing LSX Cerb?
Discussion
Imagine a Cerb, stripped down, full FIA cag LS2 Chevy, flat floor ground effect (getting carried away now)
In what classes would it be eligible to race, GT cup would be good but don't think rules permit different engine.
Tuscan/Sagaris challenge looks like it would be permitted (Sagaris bodied LSX powered Tuscan racers seem to be the rage at the moment!) but I don't know how far you could go with aero mods and I guess you would not be in the same handling league as the aforementioned Sagarises, Sagari, or whatever the hell the plural is!
Any other race classes that a Cerb thus equipped might be eligible for? i liked the idea of the GT Cup with a view to mixing it with other makes, Porsche, ferrari's etc. I am a big fan of the AJP8 engine, but with it becoming scarce would make sense to go the LSX route for any serious racing as the sagaris racers are starting to do.
Purely Hypothetical question at the moment, but building a sodding great big garage at the moment, so who knows!!!!
In what classes would it be eligible to race, GT cup would be good but don't think rules permit different engine.
Tuscan/Sagaris challenge looks like it would be permitted (Sagaris bodied LSX powered Tuscan racers seem to be the rage at the moment!) but I don't know how far you could go with aero mods and I guess you would not be in the same handling league as the aforementioned Sagarises, Sagari, or whatever the hell the plural is!
Any other race classes that a Cerb thus equipped might be eligible for? i liked the idea of the GT Cup with a view to mixing it with other makes, Porsche, ferrari's etc. I am a big fan of the AJP8 engine, but with it becoming scarce would make sense to go the LSX route for any serious racing as the sagaris racers are starting to do.
Purely Hypothetical question at the moment, but building a sodding great big garage at the moment, so who knows!!!!
There are no LS engined Sagaris running in the TVR series at the moment, although you could run one there.
An LS engined Cerb could also run in that series. If it were in Britcar or Dutch Supercar you would most likely be looking at Class 1 not 2, unless the power output was verey low or the car was very heavy.
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
An LS engined Cerb could also run in that series. If it were in Britcar or Dutch Supercar you would most likely be looking at Class 1 not 2, unless the power output was verey low or the car was very heavy.
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
Erich Stahler said:
teamHOLDENracing said:
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
Maybe they would with a handicap like balast or restrictors?You coming to any Thoroughbred races to cheer on the TR boys;)
jellison said:
Erich Stahler said:
teamHOLDENracing said:
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
Maybe they would with a handicap like balast or restrictors?You coming to any Thoroughbred races to cheer on the TR boys;)
Erich Stahler said:
jellison said:
Erich Stahler said:
teamHOLDENracing said:
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
Maybe they would with a handicap like balast or restrictors?You coming to any Thoroughbred races to cheer on the TR boys;)
Put it in you diary.
Erich Stahler said:
teamHOLDENracing said:
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
Maybe they would with a handicap like balast or restrictors?It is not the easiest of changes - you can't just chuck a new engine in.
teamHOLDENracing said:
Erich Stahler said:
teamHOLDENracing said:
Whilst GT Cup grids are good I suspect the car would not be welcome. The Sagaris is too quick for that series as it curently stands - that is the main issue rather than regs/eligibiity.
Maybe they would with a handicap like balast or restrictors?It is not the easiest of changes - you can't just chuck a new engine in.
Buy the way was just reading about your car in the June copy of Sprint, looks fabulous, hope it all goes well for you.
Thanks Eric - its getting there.
The GT Cup benchmark car for its top class is the 997 GT3 Cup car. An AJP engined Sagaris from last year was already significantly quicker, so the LS engined cars will be far too quick.
Britcar is simply governed by a 400 bhp / tonne at the rear wheels maximum PTW ratio
The GT Cup benchmark car for its top class is the 997 GT3 Cup car. An AJP engined Sagaris from last year was already significantly quicker, so the LS engined cars will be far too quick.
Britcar is simply governed by a 400 bhp / tonne at the rear wheels maximum PTW ratio
teamHOLDENracing said:
Thanks Eric - its getting there.
The GT Cup benchmark car for its top class is the 997 GT3 Cup car. An AJP engined Sagaris from last year was already significantly quicker, so the LS engined cars will be far too quick.
Britcar is simply governed by a 400 bhp / tonne at the rear wheels maximum PTW ratio
So, if it's not giving any trade secrets away, is the amazing handling mainly down to how you have setup your chassis, your particular aero set-up or the more aero efficient shape of the Sagaris body shell? Im guessing its a combination of all of these?The GT Cup benchmark car for its top class is the 997 GT3 Cup car. An AJP engined Sagaris from last year was already significantly quicker, so the LS engined cars will be far too quick.
Britcar is simply governed by a 400 bhp / tonne at the rear wheels maximum PTW ratio
The chassis is certainly stiffer thanks to a more comprehensive rollcage. The aero works well and gives us a huge amount of rear end grip so essentially in the Sagaris we have Tuscan power but with a lot more grip. There is nothing trick or complex about what we have done - the Tuscan was a really good starting point, although the front part of the chassis remains pretty flexible. If we were able to install a front brace a la T400 it would
make a massive difference. That remains in the 'too difficult category'
Versus the opposition we benefit from lower weight - it is always easier to accelerate and deccelerate a light car v a heavy car - we can brake far later than a 997 and corner quicker, we put less strain on the tyres etc etc..
make a massive difference. That remains in the 'too difficult category'
Versus the opposition we benefit from lower weight - it is always easier to accelerate and deccelerate a light car v a heavy car - we can brake far later than a 997 and corner quicker, we put less strain on the tyres etc etc..
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