Did my first post covid motor race today

Did my first post covid motor race today

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Dynion Araf Uchaf

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228 months

Sunday 26th July 2020
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at Mallory Park with the 750MC. Got to say, it is a very very pleasant way to go motor racing when you've already scrutineered and signed on electronically, and when there is approx 1/3 the number of competitors in the paddock. It massively reduces the stress of the day and there's no bun fight for spaces to park or anxious queuing to get through scrutineering in time.

Much more relaxed, and as there were fewer races, the races were longer by a couple of laps as well, as there was more time in the day. It's a big thumb up from me, and I hope this e-sign one and scrutineering continues permanently!

BrickCounter

156 posts

67 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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How did you get on ?

Dan BSCS

1,178 posts

241 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Of course, if there are fewer competitors and fewer races in a day then costs will need to increase if that is to be sustained. You don’t get anything for free.

Dan

Edited by Dan BSCS on Monday 27th July 10:49

Dynion Araf Uchaf

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Monday 27th July 2020
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BrickCounter said:
How did you get on ?
3rd in quality, retired race 1 , 3rd race 2

Dynion Araf Uchaf

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Monday 27th July 2020
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Dan BSCS said:
Of course, if there are fewer competitors and fewer races in a day then costs will need to increase if that is to be sustained. You don’t get anything for free.

Dan

Edited by Dan BSCS on Monday 27th July 10:49
Yes of course. I guess the congested paddocks will happen in due course but I’ll be ok with that so long as scrutineering and sign on is electronic.

n3il123

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218 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Yes of course. I guess the congested paddocks will happen in due course but I’ll be ok with that so long as scrutineering and sign on is electronic.
How does the self scrutineering work? Do you just say yep the car is safe and legal?

Dynion Araf Uchaf

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Monday 27th July 2020
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n3il123 said:
How does the self scrutineering work? Do you just say yep the car is safe and legal?
Pretty much!

Although they ask you to fill in a form declaring validity of belts as fire extinguishers etc

n3il123

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Monday 27th July 2020
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Pretty much!

Although they ask you to fill in a form declaring validity of belts as fire extinguishers etc
Sounds great, right up until the first serious accident/ injury caused by someone being cheap/ stupid!

Dynion Araf Uchaf

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Monday 27th July 2020
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n3il123 said:
Sounds great, right up until the first serious accident/ injury caused by someone being cheap/ stupid!
As far as I could tell the standards of prep were no different. I don’t think it’ll be an issue.

andy97

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227 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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n3il123 said:
Sounds great, right up until the first serious accident/ injury caused by someone being cheap/ stupid!
At the CSCC meeting at Thruxton, scrutineering we’re doing random checks on cars.

Dan BSCS

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241 months

Monday 27th July 2020
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n3il123 said:
Sounds great, right up until the first serious accident/ injury caused by someone being cheap/ stupid!
You can’t pretend downright dangerous cars don’t get through normal scrutineering sometimes anyway.

n3il123

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Monday 27th July 2020
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Dan BSCS said:
You can’t pretend downright dangerous cars don’t get through normal scrutineering sometimes anyway.
Absolutely not saying that at all.

Also not saying that dodgy or unsafe cars don't get through.


k20ris

256 posts

154 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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It was my first race ever and can definitely echo the OP's thoughts. Although for someone like myself, who built their car themselves the self scrutineering and declarations may add some apprehension albeit I am confident my car is up to scratch or I wouldn't have participated.

But to be fair the guys were on hand and doing regular spot checks where possible and did point out a couple of things to me throughout the day.

I was really impressed with the 750mc as a whole, a really friendly bunch who made you feel at ease and the venue organisation was brilliant imo. The circuit itself I thought would be a little 'meh' from looking online but thoroughly enjoyed it, relatively easy to learn but difficult to squeeze every last ounce out of the car ie. how late do you brake?



Kraken

1,710 posts

205 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Electronic sign on is a great idea but I hope the self certifying scrutineering doesn't continue.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

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Tuesday 28th July 2020
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Kraken said:
Electronic sign on is a great idea but I hope the self certifying scrutineering doesn't continue.
really? and what advantage does having scrutineering actually bring? the scruts check obvious things like dates of belts and fire ex's but that's a waste of time because condition is more important. I had to put out a fire using my oldest discarded handheld extinguisher a few weeks ago, and you know what? it worked fine, despite being 20 years old.

Equally if a car fails on circuit it's unlikely the scrut will spot it before hand, broken suspension causing an accident could be due to riding the kerbs too much. The thing that needs to be checked most is leaks, which as the engine is off in the scrut bay you're not going to see. I think scrutineering in any case needs an over haul; self cert, via e-log book, updated with race results to show provenance, and photos of accident repairs is the way forward. After that then maybe 6 cars per championship physically checked at each round to keep people on their toes, but really it's had its day.

post race eligibility scrutineering however...

Matt W

153 posts

243 months

Tuesday 28th July 2020
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I too like the more relaxed start to a weekend. I always find Saturday morning the most stressful time so it is nice to not have the usual time pressures.

I think the Mallory paddock was so quiet due to it being a single day meeting with all 750 MC series doing 2 races apiece (3 races for the Caterhams). A normal 2 day race meeting will see busier paddock immediately.

Jimmy Recard

17,544 posts

184 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I had my first races since Covid at the weekend (CSCC at Thruxton) and had a great time. I was happy not to scrutineer but I was and am confident in the legality and safety of the car.

Having failed scrutineering before on things that should have passed (no point going into long stories here) and having to go to the back of the queue for another hour pointlessly, it was nice not to have to do that.

I think that as long as spot checks are going on, cars will be prepared safely and legally. I don’t see much incentive to cheat in club racing either - it would make for a very hollow victory and you’d feel quite pathetic if you didn’t even do well on track despite cheating!

Dan BSCS

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241 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Jimmy Recard said:
I don’t see much incentive to cheat in club racing either - it would make for a very hollow victory and you’d feel quite pathetic if you didn’t even do well on track despite cheating!
If only everyone felt like that. Unfortunately there is a LOT of cheating in Club Racing.

BobbyA

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51 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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I raced at the first 750mc meet back at Snetterton.

The paddock was just like normal to be honest but it was a 2 day meet.

Not scrutineering was brilliant. It saves the rushing about and made the morning alot more relaxed.

At the end of the day making sure your car is safe has always been your responsibility. Scrutineers only check soo much.
I hope it stays. They could even introduce fines if a car is found not compliant, that will hopefully stop people scrimping.

Jimmy Recard

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184 months

Wednesday 29th July 2020
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Dan BSCS said:
If only everyone felt like that. Unfortunately there is a LOT of cheating in Club Racing.
I guess I haven’t come across it!

At least now I have an excuse for my lack of success biggrin I can just assume everyone else is up to it hehe