Bringing a retired race car back into service
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So I want to race my car, it was previously a competition car (2yrs ago) so I know it is generally up to standard, however my problem will be dates, for UK club motorsport what has to be in-date? I know the UK rules are a lot more lenient that the FIA rules, so:
Fire extinguisher - its still in the green, but I guess it needs to be serviced?
Bag tank - out of date, but I read this is ok?
Belts - out of date, do I need new ones?
The seat is a molded fibreglass unit that is somewhat integral to the car (Radical) and doesn't appear to have dates or FIA approval, is this ok?
Apart from that I've spent a lot of time making it is all mechanically sound, so if I can get the dated stuff straight I should be ok to race...I think....
Fire extinguisher - its still in the green, but I guess it needs to be serviced?
Bag tank - out of date, but I read this is ok?
Belts - out of date, do I need new ones?
The seat is a molded fibreglass unit that is somewhat integral to the car (Radical) and doesn't appear to have dates or FIA approval, is this ok?
Apart from that I've spent a lot of time making it is all mechanically sound, so if I can get the dated stuff straight I should be ok to race...I think....
Check championship regs on the fire extinguisher, in Caterhams we didn’t need them to be in date- until the annual overseas round came around.
You will need belts, seat I imagine is ok.
Check that your towing loops comply, there have been some changes here I believe.
ETA: Oh and HANS is now mandatory.
You will need belts, seat I imagine is ok.
Check that your towing loops comply, there have been some changes here I believe.
ETA: Oh and HANS is now mandatory.
Order66 said:
Fire extinguisher - its still in the green, but I guess it needs to be serviced?
Bag tank - out of date, but I read this is ok?
Belts - out of date, do I need new ones?
The seat is a molded fibreglass unit that is somewhat integral to the car (Radical) and doesn't appear to have dates or FIA approval, is this ok?
Somewhat echoing previous replies, but:Bag tank - out of date, but I read this is ok?
Belts - out of date, do I need new ones?
The seat is a molded fibreglass unit that is somewhat integral to the car (Radical) and doesn't appear to have dates or FIA approval, is this ok?
Extinguisher: until 2020 it needs to be serviced every 24 months, so long as that particular car was a race car before 2018 - see blue book. If it was only raced after 2018 it’s more restrictive.
Tank: not sure
Belts: definitely need new ones
Seat: not 100% sure, check blue book
By the way, in response to a previous poster, HANS is not mandatory for historic (yet), but it doesn’t apply in this case of course, I’m just being petty!
ChevronB19 said:
Seat: not 100% sure, check blue book
By the way, in response to a previous poster, HANS is not mandatory for historic (yet), but it doesn’t apply in this case of course, I’m just being petty!
Seat is fine. No dates.By the way, in response to a previous poster, HANS is not mandatory for historic (yet), but it doesn’t apply in this case of course, I’m just being petty!
For 'historic', I think you mean Period Defined Vehicles (non-rally) where HANS is recommended not mandatory. Eg here https://hscc.org.uk/hans-devices/
Hans isn't a problem, got that anyway.
For the fire ext - can I just get the same bloke who does the ones in the office to do it? I see the likes of merlin do it, but they also say if it hasn't been serviced for 6 years then its scrap - no evidence mine has been serviced since new, so they'd declare it scrap, whereas the local fella will happliy service and sticker it.
Belts aren't a problem to replace - that's good about the seat and the tank as they would have been the expensive items. Thanks all.
For the fire ext - can I just get the same bloke who does the ones in the office to do it? I see the likes of merlin do it, but they also say if it hasn't been serviced for 6 years then its scrap - no evidence mine has been serviced since new, so they'd declare it scrap, whereas the local fella will happliy service and sticker it.
Belts aren't a problem to replace - that's good about the seat and the tank as they would have been the expensive items. Thanks all.
Order66 said:
For the fire ext - can I just get the same bloke who does the ones in the office to do it? I see the likes of merlin do it, but they also say if it hasn't been serviced for 6 years then its scrap - no evidence mine has been serviced since new, so they'd declare it scrap, whereas the local fella will happliy service and sticker it.
Yes, you can get it serviced by the “office extinguisher person” as long as he is qualified. Mine was done by Oheaps in Derby. I have an email from the MSA which explains that they don’t have to be done by the manufacturers or the manufacturers rep.HustleRussell said:
Check that your towing loops comply, there have been some changes here I believe.
Good shout, albeit worth noting that the wording in the blue book still uses the word "should" rather than "must", in relation to the 4 metal strap regs. Shouldn't have a problem if the car was correct a couple years ago.mat205125 said:
Good shout, albeit worth noting that the wording in the blue book still uses the word "should" rather than "must", in relation to the 4 metal strap regs. Shouldn't have a problem if the car was correct a couple years ago.
Its just got the standard radical big metal loops that are attached front and rear to the chassis. I see all the "new" cars still have this setup and I'm not sure if a radical would fall under the same exemption as a single seater anyway as the underneath structure isn't hugely different (i.e. only one place to attach it).As a thought, there are things that are lifed on the Radical. But you probably don't have any history to go on. Apart from the motor and gearbox, the uprights are very expensive to replace and are lifed so noone changes them based on hours. But if you suspect they are old, it closely for cracks and keep an eye on them.
The other thing is the driveshafts which if they are the non heavy duty ones only do a full season of racing. Perhaps worth replacing or rebuilding.
Bert
The other thing is the driveshafts which if they are the non heavy duty ones only do a full season of racing. Perhaps worth replacing or rebuilding.
Bert
BertBert said:
As a thought, there are things that are lifed on the Radical. But you probably don't have any history to go on. Apart from the motor and gearbox, the uprights are very expensive to replace and are lifed so noone changes them based on hours. But if you suspect they are old, it closely for cracks and keep an eye on them.
The other thing is the driveshafts which if they are the non heavy duty ones only do a full season of racing. Perhaps worth replacing or rebuilding.
Bert
Thanks, got all that under control - all uprights have been thoroughly examined for cracks and driveshafts are new and HDThe other thing is the driveshafts which if they are the non heavy duty ones only do a full season of racing. Perhaps worth replacing or rebuilding.
Bert
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