Pit stop fire extinguisher

Pit stop fire extinguisher

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andye30m3

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3,466 posts

259 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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I’m looking at racing in a series with pit stops and refuelling this year

Looking at the regs it says you need someone standing by with a fire extinguisher when your refuelling but doesn’t go into any detail about the type.

Does anyone know what the best type to go for is?

Drumroll

3,926 posts

125 months

Saturday 2nd February 2019
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Dry powder will knock down flames quickly, but is not the best for engines.
foam will "seal" a fire but is not as good at knocking flames down.
CO2 will work well in engine bays etc not so well in an open environment.

Monnex (Specialist dry powder) is perhaps the most efficient ,but also the most expensive.


Non of these will be effective if the person using them doesn't know how to use them.

Steve H

5,626 posts

200 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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If it's Enduro you're looking at pretty much anything goes in terms of what they will allow but fuelling with TufJugs does carry a risk of splashing etc so I'd get something that will do the job should you need it.

A fire blanket is also a decent idea if you are fuelling near hot brakes of exhaust.

andye30m3

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3,466 posts

259 months

Sunday 3rd February 2019
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Thanks for the replies

Yes is club enduro, really looking forward to it after doing a couple of rounds last year.

Fire blanket seams like a good idea to have to hand as well as an extinguisher, hadn’t really thought about that.

Given that we’ll still have the in car system if the engine side of things goes wrong it sounds like a dry powder would be sensible.

Steve H

5,626 posts

200 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Which car/rounds were you in last year Andy?

Should be a good season again, I don't think I'll be competing this time but hoping to be around for a lot of it.

andye30m3

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3,466 posts

259 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Last year I did Spa and Snetterton in an orange E36 M3. for many reasons we weren't all that quick, not least I don't really like driving other peoples cars especially when they're as clean as Edwards M3.

It did seam like a nice series, not quite as intense as the 15 minute sprint races I'm used to.

We'll be using an E36 318is in class C, we're currently a long way off the 180bhp / ton but there seamed to be a few compact cup cars out last year so hopefully we wont be in the way.

Cams have been ordered to find a bit more power and if time allows I think we can get another 30-50kg's out of the car (and ideally a good few off of me as well, although that might be harder), every little helps




Dan BSCS

1,178 posts

241 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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As has been said, anything goes extinguisher-wise. We use FIA dry break fuelling as it’s just so much safer (Did one race with Tuff Jugs and they leaked terribly so switched to dry break after that) so because of that we just use a CO2 extinguisher, mainly because if we did have to use it it is less messy than the others biggrin and if it’s a big fire the marshals will be on the scene soon enough with their extinguishers. Plenty of them in the pit lane.

It’s a great championship and is certainly a different challenge to short sprint races. We’ll be there once again with two, or possibly three, Lotuses. smile

Dan


Steve H

5,626 posts

200 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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There will always be something to go against but you'll want to be very close to the power/weight to compete at the front of C. Great racing though and a beemer is the right thing to do it in wink.

If you need any help or guidance at all drop me a PM beer.

mattnoss

222 posts

189 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Dan BSCS said:
As has been said, anything goes extinguisher-wise. We use FIA dry break fuelling as it’s just so much safer (Did one race with Tuff Jugs and they leaked terribly so switched to dry break after that) so because of that we just use a CO2 extinguisher, mainly because if we did have to use it it is less messy than the others biggrin and if it’s a big fire the marshals will be on the scene soon enough with their extinguishers. Plenty of them in the pit lane.

It’s a great championship and is certainly a different challenge to short sprint races. We’ll be there once again with two, or possibly three, Lotuses. smile

Dan
I’ll echo others comments about it being a great championship although I might be slightly biased 😉.
With reference to the using Tuffjugs, we had lots of problems last year with fuel spilling out when we used the standard production fuel filler on the car but they can be made to work quite well by having the fuel filler positioned horizontallly on the car. Ours was modified (superbly) to sit flush with the top of the rear bootlid and once it was we never had any problems with fuel leaking.
The FIA dry break stuff will always be better (and so much faster) but if the budget doesn’t stretch then Tuffjugs can be made to work without leaking.

andye30m3

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3,466 posts

259 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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Thanks for the replies,

At spa we also struggled a bit with the tuffjugs, although I believe you can strip all of the restrictive internal bits out of an E36 filler neck to aid refueling, one slight advantages of the 318is is that it should in theory not need a huge amount of fuel at the pitstop.

We're all registered now and waiting for the donington entries to open. Need to fit a swirl pot, buy lots of light weight GRP panels and if time allows get the cams fitted at mapped, other than that I think we're pretty much good to go testing as the guy i'm sharing the car with hasn't driven it yet.

Steve H

5,626 posts

200 months

Monday 4th February 2019
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If you're coming to the club trackday say hi, I'm there on the 750 team so will be hanging around for the day laugh.