AMOC Intermarque Championship Calendar

AMOC Intermarque Championship Calendar

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steeviegeebies

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196 posts

150 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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AMOC 2016 calendar now posted on their website.
Intermarque Championship consists of 6 rounds (3 at British GT meets 3 at AMOC meets). Circuits include Brands GP, Silverstone GP. Oulton, Snetterton 300, Brands Indie, Silverstone National.
Separate grids for
• All makes of modern GT4 cars
• Intermarque cars: any Aston, Porsche, Ferrari, Sunbeam, Jaguar and American Muscle/V8 engined car up to 1995.
http://www.amocracing.org/

andy97

4,729 posts

227 months

Monday 11th January 2016
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About time they allowed BMWs to race in Intermarque isn't it Steve? 1995 limits would keep it to the 3.0 litre e36 M3 and that might be a good addition?

Good move to open the GT4 series to any homologated GT4 car, though.

wildman0609

885 posts

181 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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There's plenty of places to run a BMW Andy, not sure we need another.

Some great tracks on the Intermarque calendar, just a shame Donny isn't there this year, but excited for the rest of them. Supporting British GT should be interesting.

For me what sets the Intermarque apart from the other 45 min race championships (apart from the amazing cars) is the use of full wet weather tyres, I feel it makes things much safer.

steeviegeebies

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196 posts

150 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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andy97 said:
About time they allowed BMWs to race in Intermarque isn't it Steve? 1995 limits would keep it to the 3.0 litre e36 M3 and that might be a good addition?

Good move to open the GT4 series to any homologated GT4 car, though.
One for Rob really Andy, as he's the champs coordinator, but I think Intermarque is for cars originally designed as sports cars or GTs, rather than saloon cars. So I'd guess a BMW Z1, M1, 635CSi or 850Ci/840Ci meet that criteria, as they we not derivatives of their Saloon cars, like an E36.

andy97

4,729 posts

227 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Interesting points in reply. I don't have a BMW so I have no vested interest but I would have thought that BMW was one of the great Marques so should be encouraged; there are as many places to race a Porsche or a Ferrari as there are BMWs so I'm not sure that stacks up. Interesting point about the saloon vs coupe/ sports car difference though, I hadn't thought of that but then the lin is very blurred. I remember when 911s used to race in the European Touring Car Series! And when RX7s used to race in Btitish Saloon Cars!!

And an e36 coupe is not much different to a 635 in philosophy, both being Coupes.

I would have thought that pre 95 BMWs, whether saloons or coupes, would have been a great addition to the grid, but such is life.

steeviegeebies

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Tuesday 12th January 2016
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I agree with you that BMW is a prestigious and traditional marque and it makes no difference to me whether they are allowed in Intermarque or not. The BMW cars I listed were all unique sports or GT model codes, unlike the M3, hence why I'm guessing (and only guessing because I'm not involved in running the champs) that they'd be included. I don't think it is specific to E36 M3s. The same exclusion criteria applies to all saloon cars, like the Alfa 155, Lancia Dedra, etc. Intermarque is one of the oldest sports car championships in the UK, dating back to the early 1970s, and AMOC tries to maintain a traditional sports/GT grid. As Rob said, there are plenty of places to race saloons/coupes like the M3 so it shouldn't be an issue that they are not included. You'd be welcome to race in Intermarque in your 924 Andy.

andy97

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227 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Thanks Steve but I don't think the 924S would be competitive in Intermarque, and it still needs an engine refresh so not sure when I'm going to be out with it.

steeviegeebies

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196 posts

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Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Rob Sorry missed AC from the listof eligible marques - I noticed the AC logo on the class B trophy.

Edited by steeviegeebies on Tuesday 12th January 15:43

BAZZ69

64 posts

183 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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Good tracks. Could we be persuaded. Entry fee could be a big thing to think about. Bazz

steeviegeebies

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Tuesday 12th January 2016
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You and Luke should think about doing it, Bazz. Your 944S2 is right on pace with the front running class B cars, Entry prices are a consideration - it is more expensive than CSCC, but the races are a bit longer (45mins) and it is a championship, which tend to cost a bit more. It's still a heck of a lot cheaper than PCGB. I came into it after our Oulton crash and liked all the enhanced safety stuff, e.g. rolling start, timed minimum pit stop/driver change (so HANS is secure), 1b tyres with open use of race wets, green flag lap, etc.

It'd be great to race against you guys again.

wildman0609

885 posts

181 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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The entry fee is higher than CSCC, and I've brought this up before now that it needs lowering, but when you're racing Porsche-Ferrari-Astons the entry is a fairly small percentage of the seasons overall costs, in my experience.

We get some hospitality and I've been told its getting better in 2016. The registration fee is the lowest the MSA allow for a proper championship, so if you just want to do some of the circuits you like its easy to drop in and out for the odd round.

wildman0609

885 posts

181 months

Tuesday 12th January 2016
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steeviegeebies said:
You and Luke should think about doing it, Bazz. Your 944S2 is right on pace with the front running class B cars,.


and it seems the class b cars are the cars to have if you want to run at the front overall!!!

steeviegeebies

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196 posts

150 months

Wednesday 13th January 2016
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Hope that's the case this season too!

steeviegeebies

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Wednesday 13th January 2016
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andy97 said:
Interesting points in reply. I don't have a BMW so I have no vested interest but I would have thought that BMW was one of the great Marques so should be encouraged; there are as many places to race a Porsche or a Ferrari as there are BMWs so I'm not sure that stacks up. Interesting point about the saloon vs coupe/ sports car difference though, I hadn't thought of that but then the lin is very blurred. I remember when 911s used to race in the European Touring Car Series! And when RX7s used to race in Btitish Saloon Cars!!

And an e36 coupe is not much different to a 635 in philosophy, both being Coupes.

I would have thought that pre 95 BMWs, whether saloons or coupes, would have been a great addition to the grid, but such is life.
Andy here is the regulation that restricts the championship to Sports and GT cars:

"1.3.2 Drivers and Entrant/Drivers must:
(a) be current Members of the clubs listed in 1.3.1. and drive sports or GT cars...."

So it is a sports and GT car championship, hence why M3's and other touring cars are not eligible.

Oilchange

8,667 posts

265 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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I inquired about entry with my Esprit and was accepted pending scrutineering and coughing up the entry fees yikes
Was unable to compete due to various reasons but would have loved to...

steeviegeebies

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Friday 15th January 2016
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Oilchange said:
I inquired about entry with my Esprit and was accepted pending scrutineering and coughing up the entry fees yikes
Was unable to compete due to various reasons but would have loved to...
Yes entry fees are slightly more than series stuff but registration is very low and the quality of the racing and the cars are both awesome. You should give it a go in your Esprit. Lovely car!

Oilchange

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265 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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Ta, when I have the chance