Volvos in Dubai - worth buying?

Volvos in Dubai - worth buying?

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XB70

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2,491 posts

203 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Looking at a 4WD for the wife. She wants to buy new whereas I am looking at the used end of the market. One that jumps out is the Volvo XC90 with the V8. I have heard horror stories about engines and gearboxes in other countries/forums but cannot seem to find much about how they fare here in this climate/getting parts/servicing etc.

Forgot to add - is it capable of going offroad into the desert for camping etc? Not full on dune-bashing but being able to get in and out of the sand dunes.

Should I prepare a bargepole or worth looking further into?

Thanks in advance

Edited by XB70 on Friday 16th September 14:46

Harris_I

3,237 posts

266 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Anything big and European becomes a money pit after 5 years in Dubai.

I had an XC90 around that age and got lucky with mostly regular maintenance bills. But the gearbox developed a tendency to shunt on engaging. Otherwise it was a comfortable practical workhorse.

XB70

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2,491 posts

203 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Thanks for the quick reply! Apparently the one I have seen had a gearbox replacement at 110,000km (now just short of 130,000km)

Paracetamol

4,234 posts

251 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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We used to run a 2009 XC90 3.2. It was an OK car but Volvo has a stupid attitude here over spare parts prices, warranty lengths and also service intervals. I think these revenues are used to make up the short fall in sales revenues...but talk about alienating customers in the process.

In the end I used to have to bring parts in my luggage. The bushes just don't seem to be up to the heat and weather here.

I think the gearbox issues related to the older cars. Later ones seem ok..

One other issue- don't buy witout the BLIS indicators. They have a huge blind spot that's almost leathal. I put those weird blindspot stick on concave mirrors on ours but they looked a bit crap..

Saying all that..the new XC90 looks great and with 15k service intervals and an extendable 3 year warranty I could be tempted..

Edited by Paracetamol on Friday 16th September 16:34

XB70

Original Poster:

2,491 posts

203 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Paracetamol said:
We used to run a 2009 XC90 3.2. It was an OK car but Volvo has a stupid attitude here over spare parts prices, warranty lengths and also service intervals. I think these revenues are used to make up the short fall in sales revenues...but talk about alienating customers in the process.

In the end I used to have to bring parts in my luggage. The bushes just don't seem to be up to the heat and weather here.

I think the gearbox issues related to the older cars. Later ones seem ok..

One other issue- don't buy witout the BLIS indicators. They have a huge blind spot that's almost leathal. I put those weird blindspot stick on concave mirrors on ours but they looked a bit crap..

Saying all that..the new XC90 looks great and with 15k service intervals and an extendable 3 year warranty I could be tempted..

Edited by Paracetamol on Friday 16th September 16:34
Hmmm...food for thought.

I am hoping to come across some confused person selling a Mercedes R class which has been badged as an R350 when it is in fact an R63L *grin* given the number of 'G63s' and 'S63s' that my old heap of a Caddy sees off on a regular basis. Tiny brake calipers are not an option on the AMG parts list as far as I know!

XB70

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203 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Just saw your garage profile - naughty words came out of my mouth (glad no one else is in the office at the moment)!

My goodness - that is impressive.

mattrsd

94 posts

146 months

Friday 16th September 2016
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Be careful though... my brother-in-law bought an XC90 here and despite passing the exhaustive RTA test soon discovered the propshaft was missing! Clearly he'd checked it over thoroughly before buying smile

Edited by mattrsd on Friday 16th September 19:08

dxbtiger

4,440 posts

180 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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Someone on here flogs them I think.

XB70

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203 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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I think it is After_shock.

Had a look in some dealerships this morning but not enjoyable at all with no air con in my car. Did see briefly a Kia Mojave which seems to offer a lot of car for the money and extremely long warranty. Would just be pounding the school runs for the wife but she is keen to have new and reassurance of a warranty whereas I am still in the 'what scraps can be had at the bargain barge'end of the market - I blame the influence of the 0-5000 thread over on general gassing

Paracetamol

4,234 posts

251 months

Saturday 17th September 2016
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XB70 said:
Just saw your garage profile - naughty words came out of my mouth.
..I often hear those from my wife too!

Its a labour of love but fun nonetheless.

IanUAE

2,945 posts

171 months

Sunday 18th September 2016
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XB70 said:
I think it is After_shock.

Had a look in some dealerships this morning but not enjoyable at all with no air con in my car. Did see briefly a Kia Mojave which seems to offer a lot of car for the money and extremely long warranty. Would just be pounding the school runs for the wife but she is keen to have new and reassurance of a warranty whereas I am still in the 'what scraps can be had at the bargain barge'end of the market - I blame the influence of the 0-5000 thread over on general gassing
We have 2 Mohave's in the office and yes they are quite well specked and reasonable to drive (in fact the office is talking about selling my LWB Pajero and giving me 1 of the Mohave's).

XB70

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Sunday 18th September 2016
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IanUAE said:
We have 2 Mohave's in the office and yes they are quite well specked and reasonable to drive (in fact the office is talking about selling my LWB Pajero and giving me 1 of the Mohave's).
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The bargain Volvo V8 was sold before I could see this evening :-(

Thanks for the comments on the Kia so will have to look at one in more detail/drive this weekend.



Randompunter74

642 posts

151 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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no

XB70

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2,491 posts

203 months

Sunday 25th September 2016
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Had a look around this weekend - seeing lots of the XC90s about.

The dear wife keeps pushing for new. Given that she will be learning to drive; the risk of being intimidated on the road and the (alleged) need to be able to carry visitors around, I had a look at a battlecruiser..sorry, Toyota Sequoia.

Kids loved it as they disappeared off to the third row about 500m away. Was too late to do a test drive but from the oracles of YouTube and the forums, they seem to be quite reliable mobile villas.

Any thoughts on the USS Sequoia?

shirt

23,474 posts

208 months

Monday 26th September 2016
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Proper behemoth those. i reckon wife friendly from the PoV that you wouldn't even spill your drink if another car went into you, but doubt visibility and manoeuvring are that good. Also typical jap interior from the 90s and you can forget about taking it into the desert.

If the xc90 looked better I would have one but they still look like a car which should be advertised in saga.

I know your frustration though as I think my suv budget is similar and everything decent seems to sell before I get a viewing.

85Carrera

3,503 posts

244 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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XB70 said:
Forgot to add - is it capable of going offroad into the desert for camping etc? Not full on dune-bashing but being able to get in and out of the sand dunes.



Edited by XB70 on Friday 16th September 14:46
No, it's not. It designed for a bit of snow in Scandi land.

Onetrackmind

813 posts

220 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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We recently bought a 2015 ex-demo Durango from Trading Enterprises. Could be worth a look as you seem to be going through a similar thought process to myself at the time. The prob with these premium used SUVs is, as stated by others, they can cost a fortune to run after a while.

Our 2008 Touareg with 160k on the clock was diagnosed with needing 15k of suspension work so decided to chop it in for something newer. I already have an old car which is enough of an effort to run out here, so wanted less hassle from a newer car.

I did a bit of research before buying and the Durango wins lots of group tests in the US. It has the 8 speed ZF 'box that comes in many premium brand brand SUVs. Meant to be safe for the wife and daughter. I'm happy as it has the 5.7 360hp motor - the V8 seems a dying breed so glad to get one and tick that box off. Has a five year warranty, so no worries for a while. I like the looks and interior of the updated model - rear lights look good and nice interior lighting. I really fancied the R/T but as this was an ex-demo 2015 they were offering it with a massive discount. Just a suggestion but thought it might be worth you considering one. I'd always written off US cars but it seems Fiat-Chrysler have gotten their act together, especially with the Jeep and Dodge brands.

Edited by Onetrackmind on Sunday 2nd October 18:16

Paracetamol

4,234 posts

251 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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I drove the new shape XC90 over the weekend....lovely car and may swap our Tourag for one if I know that I don't need to sell it for 4-5 years as the residuals wont be strong. The Patrol makes the most sense in this regard but I can't stand japanese cars..

XB70

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2,491 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd October 2016
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Onetrackmind said:
We recently bought a 2015 ex-demo Durango from Trading Enterprises. Could be worth a look as you seem to be going through a similar thought process to myself at the time. The prob with these premium used SUVs is, as stated by others, they can cost a fortune to run after a while.

Our 2008 Touareg with 160k on the clock was diagnosed with needing 15k of suspension work so decided to chop it in for something newer. I already have an old car which is enough of an effort to run out here, so wanted less hassle from a newer car.

I did a bit of research before buying and the Durango wins lots of group tests in the US. It has the 8 speed ZF 'box that comes in many premium brand brand SUVs. Meant to be safe for the wife and daughter. I'm happy as it has the 5.7 360hp motor - the V8 seems a dying breed so glad to get one and tick that box off. Has a five year warranty, so no worries for a while. I like the looks and interior of the updated model - rear lights look good and nice interior lighting. I really fancied the R/T but as this was an ex-demo 2015 they were offering it with a massive discount. Just a suggestion but thought it might be worth you considering one. I'd always written off US cars but it seems Fiat-Chrysler have gotten their act together, especially with the Jeep and Dodge brands.

Edited by Onetrackmind on Sunday 2nd October 18:16
That is really useful - thanks. An ex-demo would be ideal - I have seen a few Durangos around but not looked at them closely. One to add to the list!

IanUAE

2,945 posts

171 months

Wednesday 5th October 2016
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Got given the keys for the Mohave yesterday, so I have only driven it from the office to home and back. Not sure which model it is, but it has:

Cooled/Heated from seats
Split climate A/C
Bluetooth/Map/Reverse camera multi media display
iPod interface
Leather memory position seats

My only complaint is that I will have to take the wheels out of the cycle to get it in (I could leave the wheels in with the Pajero).

Overall not a bad car.