List of 4x4's that get stuck in snow

[900ssduke]

Let me start.
Mercedes ML280 with new road tyres, the second you throw it into a deep drift.

[stone-islandV8]

Would love to have some snow to test it out

[alsoverysideways]

Any chance of a picture of the Brown LR 'beached' across the country lane off the news yesterday

[the_scorpion]

My eldest managed to get his Navara stuck this morning on a slope. No matter what he did it just slid down the slope closer to the wall.



Luckily for him the wife's Santa Fe was handy to tow it out.

[stone-islandV8]

the_scorpion said:

My eldest managed to get his Navara stuck this morning on a slope.

Should've got an L200

[the_scorpion]

stone-islandV8 said:

the_scorpion said:

My eldest managed to get his Navara stuck this morning on a slope.

Should've got an L200

[100SRV]

...any 4x4 driven by someone who does not understand the vehicle's limits...

[Arif110]

100SRV said:

...any 4x4 driven by someone who does not understand the vehicle's limits...

and indeed tyres and tyre condition...

[gunghochef]

was enjoying the snow in my 3.5 v6 pajero with my new chunky Insa Turbo tyres, no problem 3 feet drifts and all then the whole lot turned to 6 inches of ice and the fun was over, did a 360 spin and put a big dent in the rear bumper!!!! but ill be back

[RRS_Staffs]

gunghochef said:

was enjoying the snow in my 3.5 v6 pajero with my new chunky Insa Turbo tyres, no problem 3 feet drifts and all then the whole lot turned to 6 inches of ice and the fun was over, did a 360 spin and put a big dent in the rear bumper!!!! but ill be back

Great user name

[Ayahuasca]

Arif110 said:

100SRV said:

...any 4x4 driven by someone who does not understand the vehicle's limits...

and indeed tyres and tyre condition...

And indeed how differentials and crossed axles work....

[Arif110]

Ayahuasca said:

Arif110 said:

100SRV said:

...any 4x4 driven by someone who does not understand the vehicle's limits...

and indeed tyres and tyre condition...

And indeed how differentials and crossed axles work....

Well indeed! When I had a Landrover 110 Defender (MY02), which has a transmission hand-brake - I had always to be aware that, in theory... if I were to park up a slope, where one half was good tarmac, but the other half ice (surprisingly common to find this in car parks) - the vehicle could technically roll down - with the two final drives happily allowing the iced wheels to spin, as the good wheels turn them!

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong on that, by the way.

[Hooli]

Sounds right to me. Infact I'm not even sure it wouldn't just need one rear wheel on ice to allow it to move.

[Ayahuasca]

We have the same discussion in the 'Should I buy a Defender' thread.

[Eggman]

Arif110 said:

with the two final drives happily allowing the iced wheels to spin, as the good wheels turn them!

I could see that happening if the iced wheel was rotating backwards; with the diff open, I suspect you would only need one rear wheel to slip.

Must try it out next time I get the chance!

Returning to the thread, tyres are the achilles heel in snow. Avon Rangemasters

[richyb]

If you are going to get a 4X4 then get a tirfor and a couple of strops to go in the boot. If you get stuck atleast you have a fighting chance of getting back out.

[normalbloke]

richyb said:

If you are going to get a 4X4 then get a tirfor and a couple of strops to go in the boot. If you get stuck atleast you have a fighting chance of getting back out.

Just have the foresight to skid off close to a tree or other immoveable object....

[Ayahuasca]

normalbloke said:

richyb said:

If you are going to get a 4X4 then get a tirfor and a couple of strops to go in the boot. If you get stuck atleast you have a fighting chance of getting back out.

Just have the foresight to skid off close to a tree or other immoveable object....

Psah. No tree required. Just bury the spare wheel and use it as an anchor.


But don't bury it in snow.

[300bhp/ton]

Arif110 said:

Ayahuasca said:

Arif110 said:

100SRV said:

...any 4x4 driven by someone who does not understand the vehicle's limits...

and indeed tyres and tyre condition...

And indeed how differentials and crossed axles work....

Well indeed! When I had a Landrover 110 Defender (MY02), which has a transmission hand-brake - I had always to be aware that, in theory... if I were to park up a slope, where one half was good tarmac, but the other half ice (surprisingly common to find this in car parks) - the vehicle could technically roll down - with the two final drives happily allowing the iced wheels to spin, as the good wheels turn them!

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong on that, by the way.

That doesn't sound right to me.....

-Surely most normal cars the hand brake only works on the rear wheels (or the fronts with some French ones). So if you park with the braked wheels on ice, the car would slide and roll.

-In a Landy it brakes the transmission, so brakes all 4 wheels. Even with the Centre diff open, if the rear wheels slide on ice, the fronts would still remain locked.

The centre diff input shaft won't turn, so neither will the output shafts, so neither will the wheels. The only way for it to work with a locked input shaft would be for the wheels to rotate forwards and the rears backwards. But in such a case they would be opposing forces and the vehicle still wouldn't roll.

[normalbloke]

Ayahuasca said:

normalbloke said:

richyb said:

If you are going to get a 4X4 then get a tirfor and a couple of strops to go in the boot. If you get stuck atleast you have a fighting chance of getting back out.

Just have the foresight to skid off close to a tree or other immoveable object....

Psah. No tree required. Just bury the spare wheel and use it as an anchor.


But don't bury it in snow.

That'll be nice and easy going under that snow!

Crikey you guys paint some amusing scenarios. What else shall we have in the boot " just in case"? A pyrotechnic ground anchor?A second Tirfor in case the first breaks? A second spare wheel to bury as a ground anchor, just in case you forget where you buried the first? How about a team of chase 4x4 Responders too, just in case? You know, the emergency services reject type that love to have as many flashing lights as possible.

Have a fun and tongue firmly in cheek day!