My first Green Laning run

My first Green Laning run

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eltax91

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10,049 posts

213 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Hi all, I went out for my first Green Laning run today, with a couple of chaps from a local off road club. smile

We did about a dozen lanes, and it was really good to start to learn when to use what gears etc. We saw some deep rutted sections, and a splash or two! You guessed it though, inexperience on my part led to this:-



Oh well, all part of the learning process. Must got my tow bar removed!! hehe

Edited by eltax91 on Saturday 1st May 20:16

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Quinny said:
Its when your in the middle of nowhere, and on your own, and somthing like that happensyikes
Been there, done that, one of the worst bits was when I crouched in the river trying (vainly) to put branches under the wheel and realised my mobile phone was in my pocket a foot underwater so I had knacked that too.

Creative is not the word.

fk bd ing wk is the word.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Have you worked out why the Disco got stuck BTW?


eltax91

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10,049 posts

213 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Quinny said:
Great funyes

Its when your in the middle of nowhere, and on your own, and somthing like that happensyikes


Thats when you have to get creativehehe
Yeah! I don't think I'm brave enough to go out alone, well, not proficient enough yet. I've got a mate visiting next Sat, and think I'm going to repeat the lanes! Hopefully I can find someone near Leicester to come with me or I might have to get creative. hehe

eltax91

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10,049 posts

213 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
Have you worked out why the Disco got stuck BTW?
Yeah, see the last line of my OP. Picture here of half the tow bar, the other half being buried..... all part of the learning process. biggrin


OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

184 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
Have you worked out why the Disco got stuck BTW?
Clue:

eltax91 said:
Oh well, all part of the learning process. Must got my tow bar removed!! hehe
wink

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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OnTheOverrun said:
Ayahuasca said:
Have you worked out why the Disco got stuck BTW?
Clue:

eltax91 said:
Oh well, all part of the learning process. Must got my tow bar removed!! hehe
wink
Ah. biggrin

eltax91

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10,049 posts

213 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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Quinny said:
To reducing the chances of getting stuck in the first placeyes























I bought a Jeep, instead of a Land Rover heheredcardwhistlegetmecoathehe
Where abouts in the country are you based Quinney?

pugwash4x4

7,558 posts

228 months

Saturday 1st May 2010
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might be worth getting some training- its a bit of a trek but have a look at www.4x4adventures.co.uk

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Monday 3rd May 2010
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I'd stick 235/85s on the disco & hack the rear arches like the camels had to run 7.50s. Disco axles are too near the floor with the smaller tyres. Most ruts on lanes tend to be deep enough to just drag diffs with defender size tyres - disco wheels will be off the floor at that point.

100SRV

2,180 posts

249 months

Monday 3rd May 2010
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Nice photo and looks like a comfortable laning car.

It is well worth learning to straddle the ruts - if you can't feel what the tyres are doing with the traction available it doesn't matter how big your tyres are you WILL get stuck.

Learn to drive what you have first before spending too much money "improving" it!

100SRV

eltax91

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10,049 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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100SRV said:
Nice photo and looks like a comfortable laning car.

It is well worth learning to straddle the ruts - if you can't feel what the tyres are doing with the traction available it doesn't matter how big your tyres are you WILL get stuck.

Learn to drive what you have first before spending too much money "improving" it!

100SRV
Absolutely! After beaching in the same ruts twice I started to straddle the deeper stuff. Interesting to take a different line to others and more challenging than just letting the tyres follow the ruts to be honest.

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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eltax91 said:
100SRV said:
Nice photo and looks like a comfortable laning car.

It is well worth learning to straddle the ruts - if you can't feel what the tyres are doing with the traction available it doesn't matter how big your tyres are you WILL get stuck.

Learn to drive what you have first before spending too much money "improving" it!

100SRV
Absolutely! After beaching in the same ruts twice I started to straddle the deeper stuff. Interesting to take a different line to others and more challenging than just letting the tyres follow the ruts to be honest.
You will find lanes where the ruts are the only route though, or at least I did. That's when its taller tyres or get dragged through.

100SRV

2,180 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th May 2010
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Hooli said:
eltax91 said:
100SRV said:
Nice photo and looks like a comfortable laning car.

It is well worth learning to straddle the ruts - if you can't feel what the tyres are doing with the traction available it doesn't matter how big your tyres are you WILL get stuck.

Learn to drive what you have first before spending too much money "improving" it!

100SRV
Absolutely! After beaching in the same ruts twice I started to straddle the deeper stuff. Interesting to take a different line to others and more challenging than just letting the tyres follow the ruts to be honest.
You will find lanes where the ruts are the only route though, or at least I did. That's when its taller tyres or get dragged through.
This is true BUT you have to ask yourself whether you should be driving a lane in that condition..about two or three years ago I was out laning in my home county and tried to drive a lane which I found to be badly rutted by agricultural machinery (passable after a dry spell when straddling the ruts), so I missed out that lane and drove another one nearby where I came upon a group of laners. As the area rep for the Green Lane Association I did "the right thing" and suggested that they avoid the rutted lane until drier weather, the response I received was "oh we'll be alright, we've got 35 inch tyres" (mine were 7.5 R 16). Well they might have big tyres but then the ruts get deeper and you need 37" tyres or portal axles, the locals get fed up and the next thing is a TRO preventing recreational use by motor vehicles.

The point I'm trying to make is that you have to ask whether it is reasonable to try and use a lane that is badly rutted to require 35" tyres or whether you should try and attempt a repair first to allow passage on sensibly-sized tyres - it is green laning, not the camel trophy! A bit of work with a mattock and shovel by you and your laning colleagues will quickly allow passage by reasonable sized tyres and make life easier for all users - maintenance as you go I suppose - stop it getting worse or go elsewhere.

Further on from this point it is my firm belief that an ideal laning car should look like it belongs on the road but has got muddy and found slightly larger tyres - save the "competition" or "challenge" style look for off-road sites. If the car you are using blends in with local traffic it draws less attention and less contention. In that respect a Discovery on larger tyres (but otherwise appearing stock) is ideal - the choice of many to get around so it doesn't deserve a second glance by the casual observer.

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Wednesday 5th May 2010
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All good points I accept. It's been a few years since I had a 4x4 but considering it again so looking back in to see how things have changed.
I'm trying to think of the lane that'd be a perfect example of one needing bigger tyres while ok to drive. I think it was High Button & lead up to the Devil's Punchbowl. It had some fairly massive cross axles combined with ruts on the way up. The ground that flexi plastic mesh dug into it so the ruts didn't get any worse, but it wasnt levelled before that was done.
The lane leads through a SSSI which had a problem with people going 'off-piste' in places leading to Plod surveillance. Indeed I got a producer halfway up it once when rolling back off a crossaxle with a little too much power on I snapped the rear prop & bent the radius arms. I'd almost climbed out so was throttling up for that & then rolled back the foot or so to the other side. Plod had been watching from up the hill, had a nice chat, said we had done nothing wrong but general policy was to give producers to everyone using the lane as they believed a lot of the damage was illegal bikes.
To get up that lane easily you needed 32-33" & at least a rear locker or massive articulation.

Lefty 200 Drams

16,677 posts

209 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Ahem. Unimog wink

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Monday 17th May 2010
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Lefty 200 Drams said:
Ahem. Unimog wink
Ahem, single track lanes hehe

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

205 months

Tuesday 18th May 2010
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Hooli said:
Lefty 200 Drams said:
Ahem. Unimog wink
Ahem, single track lanes hehe
Ural 6x6's will convert your puny single tracks!

normalbloke

7,714 posts

226 months

Thursday 20th May 2010
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SystemParanoia said:
Hooli said:
Lefty 200 Drams said:
Ahem. Unimog wink
Ahem, single track lanes hehe
Ural 6x6's will convert your puny single tracks!
The last Ural 6x6 I came across needed my assistance to recovery it!( well,2 Mogs,a Stalwawt and a Zil 6x6 to be precise!)