lift kit

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123tom123

Original Poster:

1 posts

188 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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i have a disco and was just wondering what you think would be better a 2" or 3" lift kit for off roading

is higher always better or does it start becoming way too top heavy??

sandy choda

3 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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Hi.
I put the 2'' lift kit on my RRC with Pro Comp shocks & Brit Part springs. Its good off road especially if your running 33 inch plus tyres but on road theres a definate diffenrence in stability! not for the faint hearted if ur used to high cruising speeds on the motorway.. 2'' should be more that high enough but look into travel ie: dislocation cones, cranked radius & trailing arms etc.. key is traction (keeping wheels on the gorund).

Edited by sandy choda on Wednesday 25th March 14:00

Lefty Guns

16,675 posts

209 months

Wednesday 25th March 2009
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The main benefit is that you can get larger tyres on which increases the clearance under your diffs. You will also get more articulation which lets you keep 4 wheels on the ground for longer = more grip.

To be honest, if you're just starting out I wouldn't bother - a bog standard machine on AT tyres will teach you more. As you get better, start looking at mods...

Hope this is of some use...

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Monday 30th March 2009
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Yes

No

Maybe

all are appropriate answers wink

But depends on what you have, what you want, what you realisitcally are likly to do and how much money you want to spend.

This however is probably not the ideal website for asking advice on though, well not for off roading... tongue out

Droptheclutch

2,605 posts

232 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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300bhp/ton said:
This however is probably not the ideal website for asking advice on though, well not for off roading... tongue out
Which one is? There seem to be many (too many?)...

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Droptheclutch said:
300bhp/ton said:
This however is probably not the ideal website for asking advice on though, well not for off roading... tongue out
Which one is? There seem to be many (too many?)...
LR4x4 is quite good, lots of info but the mods and admin are arse holes. If you disagree you get banned or restricted access, only forum I've come across thats lilke it. Shame because most of the members are pretty good.

Landrovernet.com, UK based. Quite good, but maybe a little tame if you plan for more off road than on road.

Pirate 4x4, US based and very extreme if its your kind of thing.

Discoweb, another US based one. A bit childish but lots of very good advise and in many ways much more experience than many of the UK based guys.

Failing all that, give David @ Llama 4x4 a ring, he's very helpful and very honest and won't try and sell you stuff, he may even advise to buy stuff from else where (he's that honest!). You can find him via Google.

Droptheclutch

2,605 posts

232 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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300bhp/ton said:
Droptheclutch said:
300bhp/ton said:
This however is probably not the ideal website for asking advice on though, well not for off roading... tongue out
Which one is? There seem to be many (too many?)...
LR4x4 is quite good, lots of info but the mods and admin are arse holes. If you disagree you get banned or restricted access, only forum I've come across thats lilke it. Shame because most of the members are pretty good.

Landrovernet.com, UK based. Quite good, but maybe a little tame if you plan for more off road than on road.

Pirate 4x4, US based and very extreme if its your kind of thing.

Discoweb, another US based one. A bit childish but lots of very good advise and in many ways much more experience than many of the UK based guys.

Failing all that, give David @ Llama 4x4 a ring, he's very helpful and very honest and won't try and sell you stuff, he may even advise to buy stuff from else where (he's that honest!). You can find him via Google.
Thanks for the great info.

With regard to the OP, I'll be going for bigger rubber as opposed to a lift kit now. I don't think I'll be doing anything extreme enough for a proper lift.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Thursday 2nd April 2009
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Droptheclutch said:
300bhp/ton said:
Droptheclutch said:
300bhp/ton said:
This however is probably not the ideal website for asking advice on though, well not for off roading... tongue out
Which one is? There seem to be many (too many?)...
LR4x4 is quite good, lots of info but the mods and admin are arse holes. If you disagree you get banned or restricted access, only forum I've come across thats lilke it. Shame because most of the members are pretty good.

Landrovernet.com, UK based. Quite good, but maybe a little tame if you plan for more off road than on road.

Pirate 4x4, US based and very extreme if its your kind of thing.

Discoweb, another US based one. A bit childish but lots of very good advise and in many ways much more experience than many of the UK based guys.

Failing all that, give David @ Llama 4x4 a ring, he's very helpful and very honest and won't try and sell you stuff, he may even advise to buy stuff from else where (he's that honest!). You can find him via Google.
Thanks for the great info.

With regard to the OP, I'll be going for bigger rubber as opposed to a lift kit now. I don't think I'll be doing anything extreme enough for a proper lift.
lol, its easy to get carried away, I've got a new lift kit for my LR, currently looks like this:


pugwash4x4

7,558 posts

228 months

Friday 3rd April 2009
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300bhp/ton said:
Droptheclutch said:
300bhp/ton said:
This however is probably not the ideal website for asking advice on though, well not for off roading... tongue out
Which one is? There seem to be many (too many?)...
LR4x4 is quite good, lots of info but the mods and admin are arse holes. If you disagree you get banned or restricted access, only forum I've come across thats lilke it. Shame because most of the members are pretty good.

Landrovernet.com, UK based. Quite good, but maybe a little tame if you plan for more off road than on road.

Pirate 4x4, US based and very extreme if its your kind of thing.

Discoweb, another US based one. A bit childish but lots of very good advise and in many ways much more experience than many of the UK based guys.

Failing all that, give David @ Llama 4x4 a ring, he's very helpful and very honest and won't try and sell you stuff, he may even advise to buy stuff from else where (he's that honest!). You can find him via Google.
you could also have a look at innovate4x4.com- its an offshoot of Lr4x4 and where a number of the more active competition members ended up- the guys who build their own trucks and then win all the comps!

haircutmike

21,995 posts

211 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Lift kit plus extra articulation gives unstable car, but, excellent off road!


300 TDI

Alternative is buy a TD5 with ACE, (active cornering enhancement), and lift it.
Mine is lifted and doesn't roll, (not the one above)!

haircutmike

21,995 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Only unstable if you have to swerve!!
Ok for town driving but evasive action is not advised.
My modded TD5 with ACE is a revelation by comparison.

P.

61JASON61

59 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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4x4's have a higher centre of gravity obviously, so lift kits will increase road driving roll, the higher you go the more roll. think why your're lifting it. is it tyres or looks, arch cutting will help with bigger tyres, so will a lift kit. the lift kit also lifts your engine and doors higher out of water!!!

its a compromise really, want to lift the maverick, water dosn't come in the doors, but alternator sometimes gets a little wet lol, plus i want bigger wheels, without to much arch cutting.

figure out your priorities into why you want to lift it. if its just looks then forget it, lift kits don't provide extra ground clearence. thats what bigger wheels are for.

haircutmike

21,995 posts

211 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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61JASON61 said:
4x4's have a higher centre of gravity obviously, so lift kits will increase road driving roll, the higher you go the more roll. think why your're lifting it. is it tyres or looks, arch cutting will help with bigger tyres, so will a lift kit. the lift kit also lifts your engine and doors higher out of water!!!

its a compromise really, want to lift the maverick, water dosn't come in the doors, but alternator sometimes gets a little wet lol, plus i want bigger wheels, without to much arch cutting.

figure out your priorities into why you want to lift it. if its just looks then forget it, lift kits don't provide extra ground clearence. thats what bigger wheels are for.
I will go along with all of that and not forgeting that with bigger wheels, you will raise your gearing and make a sluggish diesel slowwww!
I fitted a defender transfer box to solve that problem.

P.

jon811

13 posts

187 months

Friday 17th April 2009
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if you go for the angle grinder / welder route be careful you could get carried away and end up with this monstrosity thumbup practicality 5% fun 95%, used and abused the way it should be tank






jon

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

205 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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guys with extreme offroaders... where do you go to use them to their fullest extent?

just green laning or are you restricted to quarry type pay and play days ?

pugwash4x4

7,558 posts

228 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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mainly competitions - winch challenges and the like

you will find a lot of these advertisied on places like Challenge South west, Devon4x4, lr4x4, innovate4x4,

some of them are run by a friend of mine at 4x4adventures.co.uk

they are great fun as long as you don't mind the occasional dent- they are NOT for shineys!

pugwash4x4

7,558 posts

228 months

Monday 20th April 2009
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TVR Moneypit said:
SystemParanoia said:
guys with extreme offroaders... where do you go to use them to their fullest extent?

just green laning or are you restricted to quarry type pay and play days ?
I'm a firm believer that if a green lane is going to offer any real challange to either the car, or the driver, then you shouldn't be on, (usually because the lane is in such bad condition that it shouldn't be used).
Edited by TVR Moneypit on Monday 20th April 14:01
Absolutely- green lanes are not supposed to be challenging and you shouldn't leave any evidence of your passing if possible- winches should rarely if ever be needed.

green laning is for seeing the country and treading les trodden paths, not for testing your vehicle.

admittedly "lane from hell" is fun!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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TVR Moneypit said:
300bhp/ton, Guardian front bumper? Same as mine.

biggrin

TVR Moneypit said:
How unstable does it make motorway driving in crossswinds once the rear anti-roll bar is removed?
Some Disco's never had ARB's as stock, so didn't even have the brackets.

I've not found it to be an issue, but I did grow up driving Series Landy's and tractors, so kind of have an idea what to expect.

Over the last 10 days I've been to N Wales and back plus a lot of miles there including a bit of off roading and then down to Cornwall and back. Not sure exactly but well over 1000 miles in total.

I've not noticed a problem on the Motorway, it'll run at the legal limit no problem and was IMO perfectly stable. It was also a lot of fun in the bends on the winding country lanes, I admit not the quickest, but still a hoot.

smile

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Tuesday 21st April 2009
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SystemParanoia said:
guys with extreme offroaders... where do you go to use them to their fullest extent?

just green laning or are you restricted to quarry type pay and play days ?
Mines not extreme, but mostly on RTV trials events (ALRC).