more power please(defender)

more power please(defender)

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andrewdunn

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Monday 16th February 2009
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i recently bought a defender 90 with the 2.5 td engine.I desperately think it needs a bit more umph. it seems to be alright through the gears but flat as a witchs tit on a run, is there anything i can do to give it some more go? thanks adam

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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job done

andrewdunn

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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very helpfull that,go and pester someone else

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

193 months

Tuesday 17th February 2009
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In all seriousness a remap for starters. My mates dad has one and theyre slowly tuning it up. He says it made quite a noticable difference, and the next stage after that was an intercooler.

Personally this is why im after something with a great stonking RV8 in it, so i can tune away hapily biggrin

nick355gts

128 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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Hi,
Try these guys - http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/, i have a td5 90 with the stage 2 tune.. takes about 7 secs off the standard 0-60!
There are others about too, twisted performance, TD5alive, http://www.irbdevelopments.com/

Cheers

Nick

McSwerve II

313 posts

206 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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If it’s used primarily as a toy a V8 is the way to go.

My 90’s got a Range Rover Classic 3.5 on carbs. With the Stainless exhaust it sound’s and go’s extremely well.

Here endth the lesson.

B.J.W

5,817 posts

222 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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I looked into this for my Discovery which shares the same TD5 lump. I phoned the likes of JE and I was basically told that the engine chip upgrade is a one size fits all 'off the shelf' product.

Personally speaking, I would recommend that you drop TD5 Alive a call. The chap I spoke to was very knowledgable and the work he does is all bespoke and based on what performance characteristics you want from the car. The exhaust note from the retuned TD5 is awesome (if not quite as impressive as the V8).
0-60 could come down to just over the 7 second mark for my Disco, so I am guessing around the 8 second mark for your Defender. Mid range Torque is transformed as well. Importantly, the chap at TD5 alive individually tunes each car, so the end result should be a lot better than a simple plug in.

Hope that helps.

BJW

SantaGti

13 posts

189 months

Wednesday 25th February 2009
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One of my mates has a defender. He has a new larger turbo (unsure what of specifics), varible boost, a very loud dump valve and a new intercooler.

Last year at Santa Pod he drove it up the strip, im at work atm but il post a video link later tonight, this was with the standard turbo but running higher boost and with dump valve.

I think he a 17 second quarter mile, with sounds alot but there is alot of weight to move and the gearing is ideal. I was on the insurance on it for a month; pulled well in 3rd!


haircutmike

21,995 posts

211 months

Friday 27th February 2009
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andrewdunn said:
i recently bought a defender 90 with the 2.5 td engine.I desperately think it needs a bit more umph. it seems to be alright through the gears but flat as a witchs tit on a run, is there anything i can do to give it some more go? thanks adam
You dont say what year this is, I assume a pre 200 tdi engine?

If so there isn't a lot you can do.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

205 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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A chap I know has circa 200bhp and enough toque to stop the world turning in his defender. IIRC his was fettled by twisted which is closest to you.

http://www.twistedperformance.co.uk/

They're based in Thirsk, and their stickered up demo Landy goes like stink.

Andy Sargeant

2,371 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2009
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Go find yourself a Defender 200TDI engine, it fit's straight in and you will have plenty of power, good strong engine as well.

Andy

tuffa

650 posts

213 months

Sunday 15th March 2009
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SystemParanoia said:


job done
oooh yes please biglaugh

andy400

10,730 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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haircutmike said:
andrewdunn said:
i recently bought a defender 90 with the 2.5 td engine.I desperately think it needs a bit more umph. it seems to be alright through the gears but flat as a witchs tit on a run, is there anything i can do to give it some more go? thanks adam
You dont say what year this is, I assume a pre 200 tdi engine?

If so there isn't a lot you can do.
He does say, if he's typed it right. The pre TDi 2.5 was called the 'TD' - aka the 19J engine.

ETA - The description sounds like a 19J, too.

Edited by andy400 on Wednesday 18th March 11:08

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 18th March 2009
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andrewdunn said:
i recently bought a defender 90 with the 2.5 td engine.I desperately think it needs a bit more umph. it seems to be alright through the gears but flat as a witchs tit on a run, is there anything i can do to give it some more go? thanks adam
As its a month on and you haven't answered, do you still need help with this?

If so, what engine/year is your 90. If it's a Defender then it must be a Tdi or Td5 both good engines. If it's a 2.5TD then you have a Ninety (not a Defender).

I can point you in the right direction for tuning any of them, or other options, just let me know what you have, your epectations and budget (if you have one).

jo'bo

396 posts

190 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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not sure if the op is interested in your advice but I am

ive a 2001 td5 disco, which I want to tune for fast(er)road use

don't want to race GTIs just a bit more umph whilst keeping or even improving the MPH

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Thursday 19th March 2009
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jo'bo said:
not sure if the op is interested in your advice but I am

ive a 2001 td5 disco, which I want to tune for fast(er)road use

don't want to race GTIs just a bit more umph whilst keeping or even improving the MPH
A TD5 is very very easy to tune as its all ECU controlled and the stock intercooler is not too bad.

Best bet is to have a look at some people like Twisted Performance or Allisport (use Google to find them).

A ECU re-flash/chip is the first and best mod, it will put the engine to where it should have been from the factory and will improve throttle response as well as a heft gain to hp/torque. They cost about £400 and you'll probably see better mpg.

From there you could go bigger intercooler, free flow exhaust a more radical tune and a VNC turbo. Bell Auto's have just had a bolt on TD5 making over 200hp biggrin

andrewdunn

Original Poster:

50 posts

236 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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thanks for all your help,ive sorted the problem out,ive bought a L200 warrior

jo'bo

396 posts

190 months

Saturday 28th March 2009
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eer

L200 only have about the same power as a defender and they are heaver ?

haircutmike

21,995 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st April 2009
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Pulled an L200 out of a bog with my Disco in Wales once, sure was heavy, he should have stuck to the black stuff!!

Richtharris

3 posts

70 months

Thursday 10th January 2019
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So I’ve just read this thread... I could do with some help myself please!
Mine is a Defender 90 300tdi, 1991 H’reg.
I’d like nothing more than to give her some power as she seems very flat when trying to accelerate.
What can be done? I think I’m understanding that a simple remap/chip is not possible as it is not a td5, but perhaps a different turbo? Or what?
Any genuine workable ideas welcomed!
Many thanks.