Oh heck, I've bought a Jeep

Oh heck, I've bought a Jeep

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wrighty78

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6,313 posts

219 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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The combination of snow, the need for a snotter, and a yearning to do a bit of gentle off-roading led me to thinking a cheap 4x4 might be a good idea.

So, anyway, I went out on Saturday to test drive a couple of Discos and the like and accidentally ended up striking a deal on a 1998 (S reg) Cherokee TD manual with two owners, less than 90k miles, a FSH, a few months MOT, good tyres all round, and in pretty good condition for the money. Collecting on Saturday!

Anyway just wondered if anyone on here knows much about them? There's a couple of minor things to sort out in the very short term (namely, the heater blower only works on full speed and the rear electric window won't open). Also, the front seems a little more bouncy than expected - but then I had just got out of the Mini...

So any hints on the above, or tips on other key issues to look out for, much appreciated. (And yes, I realise that this is a bit like shutting the stable door after the horse has made a run for it, but I got carried away and fancied an "impulse buy").

And I'm not sure it's had the drive belt changed. Anyone know if this is a big / expensive job on these?

And finally - anyone know of specialists in and around London who specialise in these?

John MacK

3,170 posts

211 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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TD's are known to have problems with cylinder heads, there are 4 separate heads on the VM engine and these can be pricey to fix. Best thing to do is make sure the cooling system is flushed and full of new good quality coolant and there are no leaks, I'd be tempted to fit a new radiator if it looks in the least dodgy!

The heater fan sounds like the resistor pack has packed in, a new one should be available from a dealer for not too much.

Rear window could be a broken wire or the motor. Lots of Jeeps getting broken and scrapped at the moment so should be quite easy to get a replacement motor.

Other thing to look out for is saggy rear springs, a new set will cost about £150 from a specialist/ebay.

Probably worth saying too, don't use it in 4x4 on the road, it has a 'part time' 4x4 system which locks the center diff and can destroy the transfer box if used wrongly!

Register with one of the Jeep forums for more technical help. (Birty Dastards, Jeep Club, Difflock etc)

Edited by John MacK on Monday 9th February 14:40

IainT

10,040 posts

243 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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John MacK said:
Probably worth saying too, don't use it in 4x4 on the road, it has a 'part time' 4x4 system which locks the center diff and can destroy the transfer box if used wrongly!
Mine (2000 4.0 Cherokee) has both part-time and full-time. As you say - don't use the part-time setting on the road but full-time is fine.

John MacK

3,170 posts

211 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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IainT said:
John MacK said:
Probably worth saying too, don't use it in 4x4 on the road, it has a 'part time' 4x4 system which locks the center diff and can destroy the transfer box if used wrongly!
Mine (2000 4.0 Cherokee) has both part-time and full-time. As you say - don't use the part-time setting on the road but full-time is fine.
Yea some, (usually 4.0lt auto's) have full-time, TD manuals only have part-time.
(unless the transfer case has been changed)


wrighty78

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6,313 posts

219 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Excellent - thanks guys. I knew about the transfer box / 4x4 point already, but thanks for the reminder. And the other info is hugely appreciated. I will get it checked over by a friendly mechanic asap.

I took it for a fairly long test drive and kept an eye on the temp guage, which stayed central (or just below) at all times, but I'll certainly take up your advice on getting the coolant flushed through. Thanks

Quite looking forward to it!

Darkslider

3,075 posts

194 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Asking questions about the motor after you've bought it... classic hehe

I'd better not tell you that a disco is vastly superior in every respect now you've handed over the cash wink

wrighty78

Original Poster:

6,313 posts

219 months

Monday 9th February 2009
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Darkslider said:
Asking questions about the motor after you've bought it... classic hehe

I'd better not tell you that a disco is vastly superior in every respect now you've handed over the cash wink
Well this is Pistonheads: "Speedy decisions matters" wink

And I did look at a few Discos but... erm... bought a Jeep...


John MacK

3,170 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Darkslider said:
a disco is vastly superior in every respect
hehe


wrighty78

Original Poster:

6,313 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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Yeah yeah yeah. Whatever. tongue out

Seriously, though, the Discos I looked at of a similar age were more expensive, seemed in poorer condition, had saggy roof linings, wet boot floors, rust, smoked, rattled, handled like tankers, were slower, more cumbersome on the road and smelled of dogs.

I really, really went out with the intention of buying a Disco but kinda got distracted...

wrighty78

Original Poster:

6,313 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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John MacK said:
TD's are known to have problems with cylinder heads, there are 4 separate heads on the VM engine and these can be pricey to fix. Best thing to do is make sure the cooling system is flushed and full of new good quality coolant and there are no leaks, I'd be tempted to fit a new radiator if it looks in the least dodgy!
John - I've just heard back from the dealer who serviced it over the last three years. It seems it had a new radiator fitted in June 07, which I guess is good news. Is a coolant flush still necessary, do you think?

Cheers (and thanks for the help so far!)

Wrighty


John MacK

3,170 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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It would do no harm to change the coolant and reverse flush any crap out that might be in there.

Wish I'd done that on mine, and had a good look at the rad, from the inside of the engine bay rolleyes

wrighty78

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6,313 posts

219 months

Tuesday 10th February 2009
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...sounds painfully expensive! Thanks for the advice - will do.

Ed.

2,174 posts

243 months

Wednesday 11th February 2009
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Is it just one window that wont open, or both?
I had an earlier model that had not been used for a while with non functioning electric windows. After pulling off door cards, a lot of silicone and helping them up by hand got them going again.

jeepman

5 posts

185 months

Thursday 9th April 2009
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Ring Andy at 4x4 Services in Dunstable on 01582 603060. He is exJeep and is spot on. Every Jeep main dealer just wants to take you money and not actually help you where as 4x4 Services will help you sort any problems and then heve a deal with you on the money.

61JASON61

59 posts

197 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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simple answer to your problem, get rid of the jeep and buy a decent 4x4, like a landy!!

why did you buy a yank tank for the love of god

normalbloke

7,597 posts

224 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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61JASON61 said:
simple answer to your problem, get rid of the jeep and buy a decent 4x4, like a landy!!

why did you buy a yank tank for the love of god
I suspect he didn't want a brum bucket,being the pinnacle of reliability that they claim to be...You did just say decent and Landy in the same sentence?Freak!