Roof tent - why?

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gravitygravy

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99 posts

43 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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I don't get it, what's the attraction of roof tents, other than "woo, I'm up high!", which tbh the inner child in me totally gets! smile

I can maybe see the point for actual overlanders heading into the wilds of Africa and wanting to be elevated from scorpions and wildebeest, but given that the most ferocious animals we're likely to encounter in the UK are nosy foxes or randy badgers, I really struggle to see why anyone overlanding (aka camping) here would bother?

Compared to a ground tent you spend 5x as much money for something 10x heavier with the aero of a brick which hurts economy and performance. Once you've pitched you're stuck there, unable to use the car unless you pack the tent away again, plus you're more exposed to the wind and you need to navigate a ladder to go for a wee.

They seem like a worse option in almost every way than a standard tent. Am I missing something? Is it just a 'scene' thing like snorkels? Educate me wise PH people!

Dan_The_Man

1,087 posts

246 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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One life, live it

Bill

54,245 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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I don't disagree, but they're flat and comfy, and can be levelled. And much cheaper than a campervan.

LargeRed

1,654 posts

55 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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I have an electric lift roof top tent, 15 seconds and I have a double bed. How long for you to pitch a tent ?

I can drop it and drive away in under a minute.

I too have a snorkel ....

It's a Land Rover thing.



PS .... I spend 6 months of the year travelling around Europe.

james6546

1,135 posts

58 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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Bill said:
I don't disagree, but they're flat and comfy, and can be levelled. And much cheaper than a campervan.
Pretty much this, doesn't matter if the pitch is rocky/flooded/muddy etc.

The bed doesn't deflate and is a lot more comfortable than camping ones.

Plus my wife will sleep in a roof tent, if I mentioned camping in a tent I'd get stabbed biggrin

Plus on something like a defender the aerodynamics don't really matter and it's cool that you can just use it whenever you need it.

That being said I'd probably not get another, or at least not a canvas one. They are horrendous in windy weather, if it was windy I just couldn't sleep and on one occasion I drove us home at 3am.

I'd give the hard shell ones a try though, but they are expensive.

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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I'm not a fan of the roof tent. I tried a roof tent but I much prefer a ground tent.

The reasons against are:

  • Exposure - You're limited to where ever you can get the car. If it's windy... Tough. At least with a a ground tent, you can use the vehicle as a shield or pich away from the vehicle.
  • Weight - Tent + Roof rack + 2x persons is heavy... Your roof probably isn't rated for that amount of weight.
  • Terrain - If you're overlanding, corrugations and a heavy roof tent can cause structural problems for your vehicle body.
On some of the trips I've done, I've want to camp away from the vehicle. 2x tents is just extra weight, so I might as well just take a single ground tent.

FWIW - A good quality ground tent doesn't take much longer to pitch. I use a Terranova Quasar, which takes minutes to pitch, I've even used it on the roof of my Defender & in a mine.

But be careful questioning lifestyle choices though... At one of the Landy shows, it didn't go down well when I suggested the Camel lot might want to consider renaming themselves to the Roof Tent Owners Club. biggrin

M

ChocolateFrog

28,622 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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camel_landy said:
I'm not a fan of the roof tent. I tried a roof tent but I much prefer a ground tent.

The reasons against are:

  • Exposure - You're limited to where ever you can get the car. If it's windy... Tough. At least with a a ground tent, you can use the vehicle as a shield or pich away from the vehicle.
  • Weight - Tent + Roof rack + 2x persons is heavy... Your roof probably isn't rated for that amount of weight.
  • Terrain - If you're overlanding, corrugations and a heavy roof tent can cause structural problems for your vehicle body.
On some of the trips I've done, I've want to camp away from the vehicle. 2x tents is just extra weight, so I might as well just take a single ground tent.

FWIW - A good quality ground tent doesn't take much longer to pitch. I use a Terranova Quasar, which takes minutes to pitch, I've even used it on the roof of my Defender & in a mine.

But be careful questioning lifestyle choices though... At one of the Landy shows, it didn't go down well when I suggested the Camel lot might want to consider renaming themselves to the Roof Tent Owners Club. biggrin

M
Any roof will be more than capable of taking a tent and a few people.

The rating they give is so that numpties don't put 300kg up there then take 90 rights at 50mph.

Static load they'll take tons.

ChocolateFrog

28,622 posts

180 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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I think they're cool. Most of it is just people buying into the overland experience and then never going further off road than a UK dirt road.

I've been tempted myself but know I wouldn't make proper use of one.

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
Any roof will be more than capable of taking a tent and a few people.

The rating they give is so that numpties don't put 300kg up there then take 90 rights at 50mph.

Static load they'll take tons.
You sure about that??

The (original) Defender is only rated for 150kg (and depending on the year, it was as low as 75kg)... Not just for being top heavy but for the lack of strength in the roof. The seam on the front corners are weak points and will split.

FWIW - The Camels used to carry huge weights but the loads were transferred into roll cage and rear tub, by extra bracing (which simply transferred the damage elsewhere).

M

MustangGT

12,287 posts

287 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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camel_landy said:
You sure about that??

The (original) Defender is only rated for 150kg (and depending on the year, it was as low as 75kg)... Not just for being top heavy but for the lack of strength in the roof. The seam on the front corners are weak points and will split.

FWIW - The Camels used to carry huge weights but the loads were transferred into roll cage and rear tub, by extra bracing (which simply transferred the damage elsewhere).

M
I remember Clarkson testing a Yeti on Top Gear and landing an R22 on the roof. That would be around 500kg.

Bill

54,245 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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camel_landy said:
You sure about that??

The (original) Defender is only rated for 150kg (and depending on the year, it was as low as 75kg)... Not just for being top heavy but for the lack of strength in the roof. The seam on the front corners are weak points and will split.
That's a dynamic load, when you're hitting a bump at 50 (say) that 75kg produces a much larger force through the roof.

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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Bill said:
camel_landy said:
You sure about that??

The (original) Defender is only rated for 150kg (and depending on the year, it was as low as 75kg)... Not just for being top heavy but for the lack of strength in the roof. The seam on the front corners are weak points and will split.
That's a dynamic load, when you're hitting a bump at 50 (say) that 75kg produces a much larger force through the roof.
Yeah, so where are you going to store that tent when on the move?? smile

M

brman

1,233 posts

116 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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camel_landy said:
Yeah, so where are you going to store that tent when on the move?? smile

M
I am hoping you get out of the tent when on the move and the tent itself doesn't weigh more than 75kg? wink

I also don't really get them though. Especially when I saw the cost! A fair bit of scene tax as far as I can tell.......

ETA: Perhaps this as an alternative?
https://vanworx.co.uk/maxtraxx/

LargeRed

1,654 posts

55 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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If I am staying long periods, I up the hard shell roof tent (Bundatec from S.Africa) and pitch a side tent (OzTent From Australia). Two of the very best tents you can buy.



Red9zero

7,904 posts

64 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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A chap near us has one on his Land Cruiser which is at last 18" (9" each side) wider than the car. Besides looking odd, it is just asking to get ripped off by a hedge.

Bill

54,245 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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brman said:
I am hoping you get out of the tent when on the move and the tent itself doesn't weigh more than 75kg? wink
This. Even if Mr & Mrs One Life are really living it up they won't generate the sorts of forces a 75kg load will when on the move.

brman

1,233 posts

116 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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Bill said:
Even if Mr & Mrs One Life are really living it up
Oh great, now I have an image of an old landrover, down on its haunches, with roof tent bouncing rapidly up and down while the springs squeek in protest! Thanks for that...... censoredbiggrin

Bill

54,245 posts

262 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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You're welcome! biggrin

AndrewCrown

2,321 posts

121 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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GG (OP)

I think the huge advantage of a roof tent is the physical separation from the ground the Land Rover gives.

So you can camp wherever you can get the Land Rover stable and safe.

Therefore snow, rock, rough ground, concrete, flood prone areas, sand, beaches etc.


Edited by AndrewCrown on Wednesday 3rd November 20:44

blueST

4,479 posts

223 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2021
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If you’re moving on every day to a new place they are much less hassle to put up and down. The only ground tent that I know of that is comparable is the Oztent that I have, but that is so big when folded it has to go on the roof for transport.