Thinking about a cheap Jimny. Tips?

Thinking about a cheap Jimny. Tips?

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thismonkeyhere

Original Poster:

10,730 posts

238 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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…. or tell me why I shouldn't!?

Not for much off-road at all, just a possibility instead of a 'normal' car for a cheap runaround.

I've always fancied having one, but not previously been a good idea due to significant mileage for work etc.

Wife thinks I'll look silly in it - I'm 6'4". Not sure that should stop me.

normalbloke

7,711 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd May 2019
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Corrosion. They all get it, some worse than others,some look lovely and shiny, but are almost dissolving beneath. Do your research, and don’t be afraid to pull up carpets if you’re viewing.

Spare tyre

10,342 posts

137 months

Thursday 25th July 2019
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I’ve had a couple for green laning (I’ve led groups over Salisbury plain etc)

Had a 12 year old one was pretty clean
Purchase an identical 7 year old one from Yorkshire nhs without viewing, whilst it looked good it was pretty shabby underneath compared to its older colleague - still nothing the mot man worried about

They both excelled off road and at paynand play sites

The only mod I did was some second hand mud tyres

Was an excellent spare car to have around for when it snowed, flooded other cars playing up

If I had the time I’d still have one now ( new baby)


Once the newer ones become cheap enough I shall hopefully treat my wife to one, but no off roading


Keep your eyes on gumtree, often flogged by girls after a simple MOT fail

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th July 2019
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Cracking little motors, great off-road but not great for motorway cruising.

As the previous poster said, do your research and take a couple for a test drive to see if you’re comfortable.

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Test driver

348 posts

131 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.

NS66

198 posts

64 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
Really?

depends what you want it for. The Jimmy is a very capable vehicle and will go anywhere my Defender goes except for a more spirited technique.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Sunday 13th October 2019
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Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
That's rather missing the point tbh.....

camel_landy

5,085 posts

190 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
That's rather missing the point tbh.....
Agreed.

The OP has stated they're after something as a cheap runabout and whilst they've quite fancied one previously, it had been discounted due to significant mileage requirements.

IMO - Whilst the Jimny is indeed small and 'gutless' compared to the GC or Disco, it does make a cracking little, cheap, runabout. Which is precisely what the OP is after.

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KevinCamaroSS

12,287 posts

287 months

Monday 14th October 2019
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Agreed, as a local cheap runaround it is a good choice. For greater, or motorway, miles it would not be a good choice.

Walter Sobchak

5,725 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th October 2019
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I've always quite liked these and the Shogun Pinins too, do Jimnys have permenant AWD on road or are they 2WD and only 4WD when off road-basically do they have a centre diff?.

Timbuktu

1,954 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
100% Agree.

Not quite sure why they have such a following, woefully slow and genuinely struggle on hills.

So many better options as said above.

The Jeep Cherokee for instance is better in every way and not much bigger.

Timbuktu

1,954 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Walter Sobchak said:
Do Jimnys have permanent AWD on road or are they 2WD and only 4WD when off road-basically do they have a centre diff?.
RWD only on the road with open rear diff - no centre diff.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Timbuktu said:
Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
100% Agree.

Not quite sure why they have such a following, woefully slow and genuinely struggle on hills.

So many better options as said above.

The Jeep Cherokee for instance is better in every way and not much bigger.
Can't believe you've been in one. They run as well or better than a Tdi 90

And there is pretty much nothing that compares. The Cherokee is cool (have owned one), but that is a bit like saying an Impreza STi is a direct alternative to a Caterham.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Walter Sobchak said:
I've always quite liked these and the Shogun Pinins too, do Jimnys have permenant AWD on road or are they 2WD and only 4WD when off road-basically do they have a centre diff?.
The Pinins look quite cool, but tbh are more akin to a Vitara or Gen 1 Rav 4 in terms of design and off road ability. The Jimny is a league apart and quite different.

The Jimny has no centre diff, it is RWD in high range with the option of 4wd and 4wd low. So on the road it'll be rwd unless it's snowy out when you can use 4wd high. The Vitara's are the same and I 'think' the Pinnin. The Rav 4 is unique in having a centre diff that is lockable. But on Jap 4x4's this has mostly been a rare thing up until recently.

Walter Sobchak

5,725 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
The Pinins look quite cool, but tbh are more akin to a Vitara or Gen 1 Rav 4 in terms of design and off road ability. The Jimny is a league apart and quite different.

The Jimny has no centre diff, it is RWD in high range with the option of 4wd and 4wd low. So on the road it'll be rwd unless it's snowy out when you can use 4wd high. The Vitara's are the same and I 'think' the Pinnin. The Rav 4 is unique in having a centre diff that is lockable. But on Jap 4x4's this has mostly been a rare thing up until recently.
Thanks for clearing that up as wasn’t sure on the Jimnys, some of the Shogun Pinins do actually have the proper Mitsubishi super select system with the centre diff so you get 2H,4H,4HLC and 4LLC and some of them are just permanent AWD.
I quite fancy getting a SWB proper Shogun either a mk2 or mk3 as a winter hack there arnt many of them about unfortunately!.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Walter Sobchak said:
Thanks for clearing that up as wasn’t sure on the Jimnys, some of the Shogun Pinins do actually have the proper Mitsubishi super select system with the centre diff so you get 2H,4H,4HLC and 4LLC and some of them are just permanent AWD.
I quite fancy getting a SWB proper Shogun either a mk2 or mk3 as a winter hack there arnt many of them about unfortunately!.
The Mk2 Shoguns are very thin on the ground. I think that sadly, most have rotted away. Good capable machines, IFS front and live rear. Not quite a match for a Defender off road, but good all round.

The Gen 3 Shoguns I personally love the styling of. The SWB is pretty large though, has the same wheelbase as a classic Range Rover, Disco 1 or Disco 2. Although slightly shorter overall.

I believe the diesels have issues with rusting fuel lines which destroys the injection pump and costs something crazy like £2000-3000 to sort. Definitely worth a read up if you are interested.

The 3 Gen's are also fully independent suspension front and rear. This should make them more compliant on the road and more comfortable at speed on rough terrain. But does limit their off road ability on difficult terrain. Lots of examples of this on YouTube. Sadly they have no traction control and not traction aides likes diff locks. The coil independent suspension makes them very prone to lifting wheels and becoming cross axled. Good for laning, but not a Pay & Play type of vehicle.

Walter Sobchak

5,725 posts

231 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
The Mk2 Shoguns are very thin on the ground. I think that sadly, most have rotted away. Good capable machines, IFS front and live rear. Not quite a match for a Defender off road, but good all round.

The Gen 3 Shoguns I personally love the styling of. The SWB is pretty large though, has the same wheelbase as a classic Range Rover, Disco 1 or Disco 2. Although slightly shorter overall.

I believe the diesels have issues with rusting fuel lines which destroys the injection pump and costs something crazy like £2000-3000 to sort. Definitely worth a read up if you are interested.

The 3 Gen's are also fully independent suspension front and rear. This should make them more compliant on the road and more comfortable at speed on rough terrain. But does limit their off road ability on difficult terrain. Lots of examples of this on YouTube. Sadly they have no traction control and not traction aides likes diff locks. The coil independent suspension makes them very prone to lifting wheels and becoming cross axled. Good for laning, but not a Pay & Play type of vehicle.
I had a mk3 lwb Shogun a while back and quite liked it, it did have traction control iirc but don’t hold me to it, only real complaints with it were, it was quite thirsty and a bit more noisy compared to the 120 series Landcruiser 3 litre D4D I had, overall though I’d say that while the Landcruiser is slightly better built there’s not much in it and the Shoguns are a lot cheaper to buy in the first place, you’re right about the fuel pumps being an issue on them though, a very common one unfortunately, off road I can’t really compare them as I didn’t really off road the Shogun and did the Toyota quite a bit.
I’ve not got a 4x4 at the moment, currently running an Audi A5-although to be fair it is a Quattro!. I know I’ve had issues with the reliability of them but seeing how cheap an early one can be had for now I might take a punt on a L322 TD6, preferably in a undesirable colour in HSE trim, if anything expensive goes then off it goes to the scrap yard or spares on eBay.

Test driver

348 posts

131 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Timbuktu said:
Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
100% Agree.

Not quite sure why they have such a following, woefully slow and genuinely struggle on hills.

So many better options as said above.

The Jeep Cherokee for instance is better in every way and not much bigger.
The voice of reason.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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Test driver said:
Timbuktu said:
Test driver said:
Pathetic gutless engines, too small inside and crap interior. Jeep Grand Cherokee, shogun or LR discovery all better options.
100% Agree.

Not quite sure why they have such a following, woefully slow and genuinely struggle on hills.

So many better options as said above.

The Jeep Cherokee for instance is better in every way and not much bigger.
The voice of reason.
Again, still completely missing the point rolleyes

Timbuktu

1,954 posts

162 months

Wednesday 16th October 2019
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300bhp/ton said:
Can't believe you've been in one.
Wrong. I've had one as a rental on a number of occasions and used it extensively on and off road so I feel entitled to an opinion thanks.

300bhp/ton said:
They run as well or better than a Tdi 90
Is that meant to be a compliment?

300bhp/ton said:
And there is pretty much nothing that compares. The Cherokee is cool (have owned one), but that is a bit like saying an Impreza STi is a direct alternative to a Caterham.
Right - comparing two small 4x4s is like comparing an Impreza and a Caterham. Which one is the Jimny, the Impreza or the Caterham?

300bhp/ton said:
Again, still completely missing the point rolleyes
If the point is that you want a slow, gutless, bad handling vehicle with no space inside then I'm very happy it miss it.

There are many better alternatives and I'm just trying to counter all the replies that will be in favour of these horrible little vehicles.

But I suppose it's like a Defender. It has a big following and woe betide anyone who dares to talk badly of it. tongue out