Can I tap off air suspension tank for tyre inflation?

Can I tap off air suspension tank for tyre inflation?

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Watchman

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6,391 posts

250 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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I was about to buy an ARB compressor for my tyres then I wondered if I could tap off my air suspension with a self-sealing coupler that I could connect a tyre hose too when necessary.

Stupid idea?.. or does anyone offer a kit for such a thing?

KevinCamaroSS

12,012 posts

285 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Can you get at the airline from the compressor to the suspension? Fit a t-piece with on/off valves on each side that is an outlet (suspension and airline for tyres).

Watchman

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Friday 20th April 2018
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I could, yes.

It seems so obvious, and so simple, that I thought I must be missing something.

I’ll have a look for some suitable components although I suspect I will need to flare the ends of the pipes to securely fit the T piece. Not done that before and as the pipes look to be steel, I’m not sure how easy that will be.

Watchman

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Friday 20th April 2018
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I've done some research... i.e. I've read other opinions on the internet.

Apparently the pressure in airbag suspension is pretty much compatible with tyre pressures however the compressor is not best suited for extended use. It is designed to only top-up the air suspension reservoir which, in a normally functioning system, results in nothing more than a brief spurt when. The car is started.

That said, mine has off road height adjustability so I would expect my compressor to be able to give a little more however having just paid £700-ish to replace the compressor (it's a front end off job) a 70 quid ARB twin cylinder jobbie might be the sensible move.

g7jtk

1,768 posts

159 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Better to buy a heavy duty electric compressor for the purpose.

g7jtk

1,768 posts

159 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Better to buy a heavy duty electric compressor for the purpose.

h_____

684 posts

229 months

Monday 21st May 2018
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I'm not sure what your car is, so you experience may differ. I have a 2008 Cayenne, which has air suspension, and I looked into this very topic. In fact the cayenne comes with the attachments already fitted for tyre inflation.

the issues is the compressor will overheat with prolonged use, so you cant inflate 4 tyres in a decent amount of time. The compressor has a temp cut out on it.

As a result I carry and ARB compressor. The choices are upgraded the cars compressor, and fit additional cooling to allow it to do the tyres and suspension, or run a separate compressor. For many of the in-car mounted solutions the challenge is locating it in a place where it wont over heat.

Otherwise the solution will work. I'd be tempted to carry a portable compressor, or find a cool location to mount a separate compressor.

Watchman

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Monday 21st May 2018
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Thanks. Car is a Merc GL and my understanding of the system has improved since my OP to coincide with your advice.

I had the compressor replaced which is why I thought it ought to be sufficient to pump up the tyres too however I have also recently seen one of the twin cylinder ARB tyre pumps which seems more substantial than my suspension pump.

It's probably easier just to go with a separate pump, as you say.

h_____

684 posts

229 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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:-)

Ed/L152

484 posts

242 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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Watchman said:
I've done some research... i.e. I've read other opinions on the internet.

Apparently the pressure in airbag suspension is pretty much compatible with tyre pressures however the compressor is not best suited for extended use. It is designed to only top-up the air suspension reservoir which, in a normally functioning system, results in nothing more than a brief spurt when. The car is started.

That said, mine has off road height adjustability so I would expect my compressor to be able to give a little more however having just paid £700-ish to replace the compressor (it's a front end off job) a 70 quid ARB twin cylinder jobbie might be the sensible move.
Sounds like you'd have been better off doing it the other way around - using the ARB for the suspension, as well as inflating tyres! I have no idea of the practicality of this in reality, but it's insane that air suspension compressors seem to be made of chocolate and expensive to replace, when there's far cheaper more robust compressors available.