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Hi All
I'm looking for some advice as I'm in the market for a 4x4, having never owned one before. I shoot quite a lot in Scotland and want a vehicle that can handle being driven off road throughout the winter without much issue. So primarily its going to have to handle being put across boggy, wet/snowy fields and rough tracks. However, it will also double as my normal day to day vehicle so would like a reasonable level of comfort. From an interior point of view the more space the better to chuck equipment and dogs in the back.
I've got up to 10k to spend and have been thinking a Nissan Pathfinder might fit the criteria but open to all suggestions.
I'm looking for some advice as I'm in the market for a 4x4, having never owned one before. I shoot quite a lot in Scotland and want a vehicle that can handle being driven off road throughout the winter without much issue. So primarily its going to have to handle being put across boggy, wet/snowy fields and rough tracks. However, it will also double as my normal day to day vehicle so would like a reasonable level of comfort. From an interior point of view the more space the better to chuck equipment and dogs in the back.
I've got up to 10k to spend and have been thinking a Nissan Pathfinder might fit the criteria but open to all suggestions.
Nissan Pathfinders are being bought back in droves due to the inherently weak chassis cracking in front of the rear axle. Common on the Navara also, but at least with those the rear tub can be removed to repair it! Tread very carefully.
Was underneath a 17 plate navara just the other day and there's a chunky reinforcing channel welded to each chassis leg underside at the weak point now, don't know how long nissan have been doing this however.
Was underneath a 17 plate navara just the other day and there's a chunky reinforcing channel welded to each chassis leg underside at the weak point now, don't know how long nissan have been doing this however.
Crew cab pickup? Nice to keep the dogs out of the cab, much as I like the smell of warm wet dog! Bit high for some big heavy dogs to jump in or out of the pickup be though.
Reasonably comfy to drive, plus they usually have a rear axle diff lock (my L200 and iirc Hilux did anyway so I think its the industry standard). I like the two I just mentioned plus the D Max, don't know much about the others.
Reasonably comfy to drive, plus they usually have a rear axle diff lock (my L200 and iirc Hilux did anyway so I think its the industry standard). I like the two I just mentioned plus the D Max, don't know much about the others.
WK Grand Cherokee would do the job. Plenty out there cheaper than the one in the link. Good off road and fairly quick/comfy on road.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2017...
What about the Mitsubishi Shogun LWB?
It works very well off-road, is reasonably comfortable, can seat 7 (at a push), and is fairly economical for a big vehicle.
I've done 18,000 miles in mine since the end of june, without any problems
t's a 2008 3.2 diesel (4 cylinder, so not refined), and I've been getting a little over 30mpg on motorways, cruising at between 60-80 mph.
I paid 7.5k for it.
I'll sell it next year, due to the high miles I'm putting on it, but I'll probably replace it with a newer one. The only option it doesn't have is the rear diff-lock, which I would have liked, but the traction control works well. It's just not so good for crawling through off-road obstacles as a diff-lock would be.
I think it is rated for towing over 3 tons, which can also be handy.
It works very well off-road, is reasonably comfortable, can seat 7 (at a push), and is fairly economical for a big vehicle.
I've done 18,000 miles in mine since the end of june, without any problems
t's a 2008 3.2 diesel (4 cylinder, so not refined), and I've been getting a little over 30mpg on motorways, cruising at between 60-80 mph.
I paid 7.5k for it.
I'll sell it next year, due to the high miles I'm putting on it, but I'll probably replace it with a newer one. The only option it doesn't have is the rear diff-lock, which I would have liked, but the traction control works well. It's just not so good for crawling through off-road obstacles as a diff-lock would be.
I think it is rated for towing over 3 tons, which can also be handy.
cdrick4 said:
if you are considering a Grand Cherokee, I recommend the ZJ or WJ model.
The original poster has up to 10k to spend. A ZJ or WJ at that price would have to be gold plated. 
I have a ZJ as well, and they are very good off-road, and also comfortable and quickish, but they like to drink with a 4-Litre petrol engine.
cdrick4 said:
if you are considering a Grand Cherokee, I recommend the ZJ or WJ model.
I don't. Having had 3 Grand Cherokees amongst 10 Jeep products the WK is miles better than the WJ. The WJ is somewhat under-powered although boot-space is marginally greater. Now on a 2006 WK Overland CRD and it does everything I want. Quality is fine, fuel is OK as well, my LTD WK CRD averaged 28.55 mpg during it's time with me and I sold it with 114K miles on the clock.KevinCamaroSS said:
I don't. Having had 3 Grand Cherokees amongst 10 Jeep products the WK is miles better than the WJ. The WJ is somewhat under-powered although boot-space is marginally greater. Now on a 2006 WK Overland CRD and it does everything I want. Quality is fine, fuel is OK as well, my LTD WK CRD averaged 28.55 mpg during it's time with me and I sold it with 114K miles on the clock.
I wish I could get 28 mpg from mine. Generally I'm getting about 22 at the moment which is pretty much city driving. I once managed 30 mpg on a run to Oban but have never got close to that since.
80 or 100 series Landcruiser all day long. 100 newer, more luxurious but more electronics and IFS to go wrong if serious off roading.
Huge inside and very comfy, diff locks and low range for when you need it, more capable than you'll ever need off road. Great tow vehicle too.
Don't be put off by high mileage examples, if looked after properly these should go to 300k without any issues.
I get about 22mpg in a 4.2td 100 series in hilly Dorset and cracking on.
Huge inside and very comfy, diff locks and low range for when you need it, more capable than you'll ever need off road. Great tow vehicle too.
Don't be put off by high mileage examples, if looked after properly these should go to 300k without any issues.
I get about 22mpg in a 4.2td 100 series in hilly Dorset and cracking on.
Edited by jmsgld on Sunday 19th November 16:42
Don't discount an elderly but well maintained G Wagen. Pretty rare, very capable and simple to maintain.
This is a left hooker but there are good RHD ones to be had within budget.
http://www.gwagenregister.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?...
This is a left hooker but there are good RHD ones to be had within budget.
http://www.gwagenregister.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?...
I’ve got a 120 Series Landcruiser and can’t reccomend them highly enough, would be perfect for your needs, a friend has a 2007+ Shogun and that’s great too, the Landcruisers engine is a bit smoother and quieter plus a little faster, the Shogun has a slightly more modern,nicer interior imo, nothing between either in terms of off road ability, you do get more Mitsubishi for your money than Toyota but the Toyotas seem to hold their money better, really think you couldn’t go wrong with either, and from bad personal experiences I’d advise strongly against any newer models (post 300tdi) from Land Rover.
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