Which Grand Cherokee ?

Which Grand Cherokee ?

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sparkythecat

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7,961 posts

262 months

Friday 29th May 2015
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I quite fancy a diesel Grand Cherokee, which appear very good value for money.
A budget of up to £6k will get me either a good late model WJ or an early WK model but which is best?





Edited by sparkythecat on Saturday 30th May 12:53

psychoR1

1,082 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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Assume you mean late WJ which has the 5cyl engine

I only have the v8 which is great but thirsty.

Derv WJ's seem to have some issues with 5th injector access for changing (under bulkhead) and some gearbox woes - nothing too bad.

Some of the others on here will be along in a minute with real experience of them.

R1

sparkythecat

Original Poster:

7,961 posts

262 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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Yes its the choice of dervs that Im on about.
5cyl WJ v the V6 WK

psychoR1

1,082 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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Thought so - the 5cy is supposed to be very reliable and around 7-10mpg better than mine.
Mine does 19 in town and 22-23MPG on a run.

Plenty around with high mileages so they should be fine.

I think I saw a thread on here about someone saying the 3.0v6 wasn't as economical towing - but that could be my memory playing up....

psychoR1

1,082 posts

194 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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tr7v8

7,303 posts

235 months

Saturday 30th May 2015
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psychoR1 said:
Assume you mean late WJ which has the 5cyl engine

I only have the v8 which is great but thirsty.

Derv WJ's seem to have some issues with 5th injector access for changing (under bulkhead) and some gearbox woes - nothing too bad.

Some of the others on here will be along in a minute with real experience of them.

R1
Both diseasals are Mercedes, It is injector 4 & 5 that are difficult. Needs to be done by someone who knows what they are doing as it is possible to trash the head otherwise. The gearbox is a Merc box, not as reliable as the Chrysler box which is bombproof but not bad. Need fluids changed regularly but otherwise pretty reliable.

Steve_F

860 posts

201 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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Might be a bit late now but have you considered a 4.0 with LPG? I'm getting around 15-18 mpg at half the price of petrol so equivalent of 30-36. Don't think the diesel could beat those figures...

sparkythecat

Original Poster:

7,961 posts

262 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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I'm still looking.
I haven't dismissed the 4 litre LPG, but, I don't know enough about LPG to make an informed decision. I'll be using it to occasionally tow a boat and the fact that the diesel engine has more torque than the petrol is tempting me more in that direction.

TI4500

3 posts

113 months

Thursday 18th June 2015
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stop playing around and get a STR8 wink

Steve_F

860 posts

201 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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I can assure you neither of them will have trouble pulling a boat (or much else for that matter!) around. Although I haven't towed with it there's no doubting the low down grunt it has on or off road.

Main thing with LPG is if you've got a station local to you. I've got two in the town where I work, one two minutes detour at the morrisons I sometimes shop in. It's properly handy for me. I don't do many miles and bought a 99 one with 140k miles on it, iirc the conversion was done 100k ago but still works fine. For me it's not a huge deal if there's issues with it as long as it still runs on petrol so I gambled. Was really nothing to worry about so far! When it runs out of LPG I notice the extra power from petrol but it's got mud tyres and commutes via half Singletrack road and half B road so performance is a non issue

scrwright

2,736 posts

197 months

Friday 19th June 2015
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4litre WJ on LPG, as late as you can get. Mine does around 18mpg on gas, and paying 45p a litre at the mo. I am looking for another one to put away for when mine finally dies (at 245k miles and the mo and still running fine)
WKs don't feel as well built as WJs

Hoover.

5,988 posts

249 months

Sunday 21st June 2015
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My WJ is making an odd noise from the rear..... had look about and decided to fix it as it is in better nick then those for sale and it's only done 85k.....

may have a doner vehicle for nothing as well/// happy days smile

tr7v8

7,303 posts

235 months

Sunday 21st June 2015
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Hoover. said:
My WJ is making an odd noise from the rear..... had look about and decided to fix it as it is in better nick then those for sale and it's only done 85k.....

may have a doner vehicle for nothing as well/// happy days smile
Mine is with Terry at A1 Chrysler for exactly this reason, knackered anti roll bar links cos they craply made (man with hammers in boot when going round rh corners) & diff bearings, continuous chow-wow-wow when warm.

sparkythecat

Original Poster:

7,961 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Are there any particular LPG kits to avoid or any that are better than others?

I keep hearing mention of Flashlube. Is that only necessary on the V8 motors?

TurboHatchback

4,199 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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I would go for the WK myself, by all accounts it is a big step up from the WJ. I have owned a Commander (same platform as the WK) and I thought it was very good, the diesel one I tried was also remarkably good for a diesel.

Steve_F

860 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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sparkythecat said:
Are there any particular LPG kits to avoid or any that are better than others?

I keep hearing mention of Flashlube. Is that only necessary on the V8 motors?
Mine has a Prins system that's done 100k before I bought it. Can't offer any more as it's my first LPG and maybe just lucked out!

skyrover

12,686 posts

211 months

Sunday 28th June 2015
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Would not get anything newer than the WJ myself.

I want a solid front axle smile

sparkythecat

Original Poster:

7,961 posts

262 months

Saturday 11th July 2015
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Just to conclude the thread and disappoint you Jeep lovers. I've just bagged myself a very tidy '04 Mitsubishi Shogun SWB and much to my surprise, I actually like it a lot.

MatrixXXx

653 posts

159 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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WJ is the best off road, go for the V8, the diesels are the most problematic as they don't sell them in the US.

richs2891

902 posts

260 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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sparkythecat said:
Just to conclude the thread and disappoint you Jeep lovers. I've just bagged myself a very tidy '04 Mitsubishi Shogun SWB and much to my surprise, I actually like it a lot.
Good call in my eyes, Do like the shoguns - 04 plate lasts of the rear locking diff models or fist with traction control ?
Have a look on pajero owners club lots of helpful info on there