Auto or Manual Mitsubushi Shogun?
Discussion
Being of a certain age I tend to favour manual gearboxes and having previously owned an ancient manual Shogun was very happy with it. However, now looking for another one and am surprised that the majority on offer have an auto box. No flappy paddles either!
My main reason for wanting another Shogun is that I live in an area where we can get quite a lot of snow but it would be almost 100% road use not off road.. Would therefore be interested to hear opinions on the auto v manual issue from others.
My main reason for wanting another Shogun is that I live in an area where we can get quite a lot of snow but it would be almost 100% road use not off road.. Would therefore be interested to hear opinions on the auto v manual issue from others.
If looking at MY 2000 onwards shoguns then auto - especially with the diesel engine.
Lots of dual mass flywheel problem with the manuals, but the actual number with problems may be exaggerated by the internet. There are rumours that the engine was designed for an auto gearbox only and then the manual gearbox was an after though.
If go for an auto check the condition of the oils especially if it has towed a lot and get them changed.
Lots of dual mass flywheel problem with the manuals, but the actual number with problems may be exaggerated by the internet. There are rumours that the engine was designed for an auto gearbox only and then the manual gearbox was an after though.
If go for an auto check the condition of the oils especially if it has towed a lot and get them changed.
had a 98 manual and a 2003 auto
preferred the body shape on the 98
but the auto won hands down when driving in my eyes
had it in snow a few times in SE England but went to france and got caught in some bad storms 2007ish I think but roads became rivers, camp site was a bog land, but the old girl just took it all in her stride and drove out with all our gear on and in her thankfuly
preferred the body shape on the 98
but the auto won hands down when driving in my eyes
had it in snow a few times in SE England but went to france and got caught in some bad storms 2007ish I think but roads became rivers, camp site was a bog land, but the old girl just took it all in her stride and drove out with all our gear on and in her thankfuly
You didn't say what sort of budget you have, or which model you might be after.
I have a recent-ish SG3 with the 3.2 diesel, auto obviously, as they don't do a manual for that spec. The engine and gearbox are considered by many to be a bit agricultural by modern standards, but I like mine a lot. The auto box complements the diesel very well. No, it doesn't have flappy paddles, but that really isn't an issue, as the torque curve on the engine is pretty much flat from very low revs up to the low-ish red line at just over 4,000 revs., so it would be a bit pointless. The box does have a 'manual' select position, a bit like a tip function, forwards for up and back for down, which is useful if you want to select and hold a particular gear for crawling down slippery slopes or whatever. I've never really used it on the road, except to check if it's working.
The auto makes for an easy life whilst towing. Economy is surprisingly good - you can get up to 35mpg on a run (in 2wd mode), provided you keep the speed below the legal limit. Over 70, and the consumption goes up dramatically, as the car has the aerodynamics of a pile of house bricks.
Just as an aside, I got not one, but two recall notices in the post yesterday, one for a bit of the engine timing chain, and the other for the DPF (which requires a re-map of the ECU), so if looking at a newish one, worth checking that the recalls have been done, or that the vehicle is booked in to have the work carried out. The cost of a timing chain or DPF failure doesn't bear thinking about.
I have a recent-ish SG3 with the 3.2 diesel, auto obviously, as they don't do a manual for that spec. The engine and gearbox are considered by many to be a bit agricultural by modern standards, but I like mine a lot. The auto box complements the diesel very well. No, it doesn't have flappy paddles, but that really isn't an issue, as the torque curve on the engine is pretty much flat from very low revs up to the low-ish red line at just over 4,000 revs., so it would be a bit pointless. The box does have a 'manual' select position, a bit like a tip function, forwards for up and back for down, which is useful if you want to select and hold a particular gear for crawling down slippery slopes or whatever. I've never really used it on the road, except to check if it's working.
The auto makes for an easy life whilst towing. Economy is surprisingly good - you can get up to 35mpg on a run (in 2wd mode), provided you keep the speed below the legal limit. Over 70, and the consumption goes up dramatically, as the car has the aerodynamics of a pile of house bricks.
Just as an aside, I got not one, but two recall notices in the post yesterday, one for a bit of the engine timing chain, and the other for the DPF (which requires a re-map of the ECU), so if looking at a newish one, worth checking that the recalls have been done, or that the vehicle is booked in to have the work carried out. The cost of a timing chain or DPF failure doesn't bear thinking about.
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