Land Cruiser - which one is best?

Land Cruiser - which one is best?

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k-ink

Original Poster:

9,070 posts

184 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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For a budget of £12k which model and year would you go for? Are some better made and more reliable than others? Any to avoid?

Thanks!

PugwasHDJ80

7,555 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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That's no different to asking..

Land Rover.. Which one is best

there are at least 4 different "clases" of landcruiser from utility offroader, to softroader, to full on drive round the world in comfort (in the same way that you can buy a defender, a freelander or a range rover from "land rover")

What would suit you would depend on which models you are looking at, and what you want to use it for

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

210 months

Monday 10th March 2014
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Amazon...................just great and do everything well, tow 3.5 ton, top comfort, hard to fine very nice ones at the right money.

Would be my first choice.

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Original Poster:

9,070 posts

184 months

Monday 10th March 2014
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I am new to this, hence the question. Can you outline which model names are what, ie what is the serious off road real deal and what are the softer versions (which are presumably less well made)? Thanks!

powerstroke

10,283 posts

165 months

Monday 10th March 2014
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40 series the old Jeep style , 60,80,100 series big station wagon six and eight cylinder engine .. Then there is the 75/78 series as a hard top and pick up these are
The really tough work horses , after that you have the light duty 90 and 120 series
You need to work out what you want it for and budget ???!!!maybe if its to tow a caravan and go through snow a 90 series would be fine ,
If you want to do a overland adventure then a 80 /100 series would work well
If you fix plant or need to carry work gear say in a jungle or mine site then a 75/78series !!!!

Truckosaurus

11,859 posts

289 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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k-ink said:
Can you outline which model names are what...
The Colorado/Prado is the smaller 'cruiser (in 3- or 5-dr form) and the Amazon is the larger one.

They are all simpler/more reliable compared to Land Rover Discoveries/Range Rovers and less of an aftermarket/scene in the UK than LR if you want big wheels/suspension lifts etc.

V8 petrol Amazons are a lot of car for the money due to their size and thirst.

The Defender equivalent, the 70-series, hasn't been sold in Europe in recent years but can be had as a personal import.

When the Apocalypse comes all that will remain are cockroaches and 70-series Land Cruisers.

TurboHatchback

4,178 posts

158 months

Thursday 13th March 2014
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The 80 series is the daddy, live axles front and rear, triple electric locking diffs, coil sprung all round and the beastly 4.2td engine. The 100 series is more refined and comfortable but has IFS and no front locker so is probably not quite as capable off road. It has an even more powerful version of the 4.2td engine though and the build quality is still up there with the best.

The smaller 90 series and older 40 and 60 series are still excellent vehicles but IMHO the 80 series is the king. I miss mine frown and I shall be getting another as soon as finances sensibly permit.

k-ink

Original Poster:

9,070 posts

184 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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Thanks for all your help! I will look into them and get back to you smile

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

210 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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I picked up a very nice 2006 Amazon today with 56,000 miles on the clock in Green and only one owner. It's got all the bells and whistles with new 285/65x18 BFGoodrich AT KO tyres fitted.

Will get a photo in the morning.

anonymous-user

59 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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On Amazons watch for suspension clonks, both mine (100series) needed rebuilds at around 80k and the bloody steering wheel in/out motor thing, a real pain and stupidly expensive to fix.

I love them though, I'm on number 5 currently, all brought new and all run into the ground.

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

210 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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How did you get on with the steering wheel in/out/up and down, mine is not working but will take a look in the morning.

This is number four for me, gone back to it after having a new V8 last year.

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

210 months

Friday 14th March 2014
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Any pointers on getting a winch and winch bumper for the Amazon ?

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

210 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Picked it up from Grantham and put it straight to work as I did not fancy dragging the Amazon on the trailer behind the Defender.

So the Defender is up for sale now as they just won't cut the mustard when it comes to heavy long distance towing.


anonymous-user

59 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Sarge 4x4 said:
How did you get on with the steering wheel in/out/up and down, mine is not working but will take a look in the morning.

This is number four for me, gone back to it after having a new V8 last year.
I always grab the wheel when climbing in and out, I think that wears the motor out eventually. I got mine fixed at the main dealers but it was bloody expensive for something so trivial.

That's a lovely face lifted 100 series, nicer wheels and upgraded centre console with satnav etc.

I've still got an old 100 series that's been beaten/thrashed/towed/pushed to death, but I just can't let it go, I may give it to my son if he passes his test in a few weeks.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

165 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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What the f is wrong 100 and 80 series , the mongs at toyota GB and there stupid names!!!?? Amazon a big woman or a book seller ..... Lucky they have such a good product to sell ....


Edited by powerstroke on Saturday 15th March 18:06

agent006

12,058 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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Is there a definitive point where the Amazon stopped having a 3 speed auto?

PugwasHDJ80

7,555 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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agent006 said:
Is there a definitive point where the Amazon stopped having a 3 speed auto?
It never had one as far as I know?

agent006

12,058 posts

269 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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All the mid 90s to around 2005 have D, 2 and 1 on the selector, which to me hints at having a 3 speed box.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

165 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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I think the 80s had a 4 speed with top as a overdrive operated with a buton not sure but seem to remember the early ones were mostly mechanical and the later ones had more electronic control over the box..

PugwasHDJ80

7,555 posts

226 months

Saturday 15th March 2014
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agent006 said:
All the mid 90s to around 2005 have D, 2 and 1 on the selector, which to me hints at having a 3 speed box.
There's an overdrive button on the gear selector
No idea why they called it an overdrive as it's a proper four speed solenoid controlled box.

Ideally if you want an auto you want a 1994 80, up to 92 they had smaller brakes, and from 94 you get the 24v Diesel engines which in the uk weren't autos. If you find a post 94 auto then it's either petrol or an import, if the latter then you need to check whether it has axle lockers as they usually don't.

The autos are monster boxes- they get used in busses and trucks in unaltered form, the only thing they can suffer from is poor cooling, adding some aftermarket rads can seriously prolong the life of the box, especially if towing, or off-roading (where the bottom half of the rad tends to fill up with mud, which is exactly where the gearbox cooler is).