Jeep steering / near death terror...

Jeep steering / near death terror...

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Ray Luxury-Yacht

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8,911 posts

221 months

Saturday 1st September 2012
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My modified, 4.0 litre YJ has exhibited a bit of vague steering recently. As it's on a 4 inch body and suspension lift, running 35 inch tyres, it's always been a little 'interesting' with it's lack of steering accuracy, as one might expect.

Anyway, as it got so bad recently, I suspected the steering box adjustment, or maybe a worn out bush or two.

When I inspected today - I did not expect to find:

The steering box, held onto the right-hand chassis rail by four big bolts - holding on by only one bolt at the top, with the lower bolt sheared. And the two underneath bolts, floating around within the broken, corroded lower chassis rail yikes

So basically my death was averted by a single remaining bolt, from four bolts which were supposed to originally hold the steering box, now three of which were now useless!

So - lesson is - regularly check your off-roaders, folks!!!!


anonymous-user

59 months

Sunday 2nd September 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
So - lesson is - regularly check your off-roaders, folks!!!!
.......and don't fk about with the suspension and steering geometry, otherwise the steering box might start shearing itself off its mounts instead of turning the wheels.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 2nd September 01:03

camel_landy

5,033 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
So - lesson is - regularly check your off-roaders, folks!!!!
.......and don't fk about with the suspension and steering geometry, otherwise the steering box might start shearing itself off its mounts instead of turning the wheels.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Sunday 2nd September 01:03
Hahaha... You beat me to it. biggrin

M

Happy82

15,078 posts

174 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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I've read about this a few times on the Jeep forums, certainly not an isolated case!

Ray Luxury-Yacht

Original Poster:

8,911 posts

221 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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camel_landy said:
Crossflow Kid said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
So - lesson is - regularly check your off-roaders, folks!!!!
.......and don't fk about with the suspension and steering geometry, otherwise the steering box might start shearing itself off its mounts instead of turning the wheels.

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Sunday 2nd September 01:03
Hahaha... You beat me to it. biggrin

M
Eh, a bit uncalled for, no? Is this not a motoring forum where car related fun, and modified off-road silliness is celebrated?? confused

DEFINITELY off to Mumsnet soon if things don't improve around here biggrin


camel_landy

5,033 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Eh, a bit uncalled for, no? Is this not a motoring forum where car related fun, and modified off-road silliness is celebrated?? confused

DEFINITELY off to Mumsnet soon if things don't improve around here biggrin
Not at all. You started this thread to pass on some important information. Crossflowkid & myself were merely pointing out that the problems you encountered were of your own doing... Something we too feel is very important and something people often forget when 'modifying' their cars.

If you want to talk about off-road silliness, start a thread celebrating off-road silliness... QED biggrin

M

Ray Luxury-Yacht

Original Poster:

8,911 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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camel_landy said:
Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Eh, a bit uncalled for, no? Is this not a motoring forum where car related fun, and modified off-road silliness is celebrated?? confused

DEFINITELY off to Mumsnet soon if things don't improve around here biggrin
Not at all. You started this thread to pass on some important information. Crossflowkid & myself were merely pointing out that the problems you encountered were of your own doing... Something we too feel is very important and something people often forget when 'modifying' their cars.

If you want to talk about off-road silliness, start a thread celebrating off-road silliness... QED biggrin

M
Well KINDA - my defence being I bought the car with the mods already done???

But yeah, fair comment I guess biggrin


camel_landy

5,033 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
But yeah, fair comment I guess biggrin
biggrin

M

chryslerben

1,185 posts

164 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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I believe there was a recall for a similar issue on early jeeps pm me your vin and ill check if you like?

anonymous-user

59 months

Tuesday 11th September 2012
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Ray Luxury-Yacht said:
Eh, a bit uncalled for, no? Is this not a motoring forum where car related fun, and modified off-road silliness is celebrated?? confused

DEFINITELY off to Mumsnet soon if things don't improve around here biggrin
Thing is, it's a fine one between modified and experimental wink

Konan

1,916 posts

151 months

Sunday 30th September 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
.......and don't fk about with the suspension and steering geometry, otherwise the steering box might start shearing itself off its mounts instead of turning the wheels.
Jeep steering boxes are connected to the wheels somehow? wink

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Konan said:
Crossflow Kid said:
.......and don't fk about with the suspension and steering geometry, otherwise the steering box might start shearing itself off its mounts instead of turning the wheels.
Jeep steering boxes are connected to the wheels somehow? wink
Huh?
Turn the wheels as in steer them, not turn as in rotate.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

260 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
Huh?
Turn the wheels as in steer them, not turn as in rotate.
I think he is referring to vague steering.

PhillipM

6,529 posts

194 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Konan said:
Jeep steering boxes are connected to the wheels somehow? wink
By a row of jellies stuck one with double sided tape I think.

BuzzLightyear

1,426 posts

187 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Last year, I had a test-drive of a Grand Cherokee I was considering as a winter "shed". I had only driven about 50 yards up the road before realising the steering was seriously FUBAR'd as the car wouldn't travel in a straight line, but I was in a one-way system so couldn't get back without a 1 mile round-trip (at about 10 mph). That was scary!

When I got back, I told the trader who was selling it that something was wrong with the steering - he said (everyone join in now): "They're all like that." nuts

Konan

1,916 posts

151 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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PhillipM said:
By a row of jellies stuck one with double sided tape I think.
Ah. I thought it was some kind of elastic band arrangement that controls the semaphores that signal the hamsters in charge of turning the hubs.

normalbloke

7,599 posts

224 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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I see the mouthbreathing Landrover sheep have found this thread!

downthepub

1,376 posts

211 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Admittedly the steering on my Cherokee XJ was shocking when I first had it, when on the move it needed constant correction. But as part of fitting a suspension lift, I got the alignment checked, and holy crap it couldn't have been further out. Fronts were +13 and -11 respectively! Now within tolerances and the steering has been absolutely transformed. It now feels like a different car to drive!

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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normalbloke said:
I see the mouthbreathing Landrover sheep have found this thread!
Yeah, almost as bad as numpty Jeep drivers who spell Land Rover all as one word. wink

normalbloke

7,599 posts

224 months

Monday 1st October 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
Yeah, almost as bad as numpty Jeep drivers who spell Land Rover all as one word. wink
I actually didn't mean to put a capital L upfront either. Doh.