What diff lockers?

What diff lockers?

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Ayahuasca

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27,428 posts

286 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Thinking of getting a diff locker for the rear axle of my 2008 defender 110 as it doesn't have traction control fitted. It is my daily driver in the city during the week as well as my weekend offroading toy.

I understand that Detroit lockers would not be ideal in the city.

What are the best lockers to get? ARB seem to be the most popular - are they the obvious choice?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

262 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Well, of you can afford it, and ARB locker is the daddy. Selectable, so no issues on the road, etc. I'd like one, but cN't picture me dropping the 800 quid it would be for it. You could put a Detroit type locker in the front, so you only use it when in 4wd mode. Steering could be weird in snow though.

Ayahuasca

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27,428 posts

286 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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No snow in the tropics!

The Defender is permanent 4WD so I think front Detroit wossits are out.



TheHeretic

73,668 posts

262 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
No snow in the tropics!

The Defender is permanent 4WD so I think front Detroit wossits are out.
You know, I never knew defenders were permanent 4wd! I always thought they had a 2H, 4H, 4L arrangement.

Ayahuasca

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27,428 posts

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Friday 17th August 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Ayahuasca said:
No snow in the tropics!

The Defender is permanent 4WD so I think front Detroit wossits are out.
You know, I never knew defenders were permanent 4wd! I always thought they had a 2H, 4H, 4L arrangement.
Defo permanent. Series Landies may have been as you describe.

SmokinV8

786 posts

218 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Depends mostly on what your attempting to do with your 90. Most perform extremely well without the need for a locker in either axle.
I do have ARB lockers in both axles on mine but dont need them on greenlanes but do use them when (if i get chance)I attend p&p days.
There are other options out there for lockers but for the life of me I cant remember the names!

Ayahuasca

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286 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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SmokinV8 said:
Depends mostly on what your attempting to do with your 90. Most perform extremely well without the need for a locker in either axle.
I do have ARB lockers in both axles on mine but dont need them on greenlanes but do use them when (if i get chance)I attend p&p days.
There are other options out there for lockers but for the life of me I cant remember the names!
Went up a steep muddy slippery hill the other day and got stuck with a wheel spinning on each axle; retreated and gave it more welly and went up second time no problem.

BUT the Discovery behind me with its electronic traction control breezed up much more easily and without giving it as many beans.

Makes me think that either TC or lockers would be good. Retro-fit TC is not an option so left with deciding what lockers to get.





SlimJim16v

6,116 posts

150 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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Yep, ARB best, or you could fit an LSD.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

197 months

Friday 17th August 2012
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ARB, although you might need to visit Ashcroft transmissions for some beefier half shafts and a pegged diff.

ed1983

77 posts

195 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Quaife

poah

2,142 posts

235 months

Saturday 18th August 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
No snow in the tropics!

The Defender is permanent 4WD so I think front Detroit wossits are out.
you can use a detroit (eaton) lockers in a landrover without any problems as they automatically allow speed differention when requried. or you could go for a detroit Truetrac LSD.


PugwasHDJ80

7,558 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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Fit the new ashcroft loker- significantly cheaper than an ARB and just as strong.

Psimpson7

1,071 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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PugwasHDJ80 said:
Fit the new ashcroft loker- significantly cheaper than an ARB and just as strong.
Nowdays I would do this... and I have run ARB's without an issue since 2004

wookie1

14 posts

189 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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Ashcroft locker

shafts would be a good upgrade

and drive flanges with some 12.9 key head bolts

Deasy83

3 posts

158 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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I would definitely look at the ashcroft lockers over the ARB ones, cheaper and better build quality biggrin

Caulkhead

4,938 posts

164 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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I ran a detroit locker in the back and truetrac in the front of my 90.

DL's used to have a reputation for being a bit snappy and causing tyre wear and chirps on cornering but the latest ones are fine. What you have to remember is that unlike most DL's are locked by default and unlock when they detect the need for differential action on cornering. As long as they are adjusted right they are pretty much transparent in use. You can use them in the front but they can make the steering snatch and are a bit troublesome in snow (which won't bother you!).

I much prefer them to air-lockers as they are automatic, don't have all the complication of a compressor and no vulnerable air lines down to your diff. DL in the back, truetrac in the front is unbeatable IMHO.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

167 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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80 series cruiser biggrin

100SRV

2,180 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th September 2012
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Ayahuasca said:
TheHeretic said:
Ayahuasca said:
No snow in the tropics!

The Defender is permanent 4WD so I think front Detroit wossits are out.
You know, I never knew defenders were permanent 4wd! I always thought they had a 2H, 4H, 4L arrangement.
Defo permanent. Series Landies may have been as you describe.
Series Land Rovers (except Stage 1 V8) are part-time with dog clutch to engage front axle. All coil-sprung and Stage 1 V8 are permanent 4x4 with lockable centre differential. 101" is also permanent 4x4 and shares the LT95 transmission with early Range Rovers and Stage 1 V8

Beware the distinction between an LSD and an ATB (see other threads).

100SRV

Challo14

4 posts

146 months

Wednesday 26th September 2012
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Its also worth considering Maxi-drive lockers.

Challo14

4 posts

146 months

Friday 28th September 2012
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Also the Jack McNamara lockers from Australia are highly rated.