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grumpy

Original Poster:

970 posts

248 months

Sunday 15th July 2012
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I've just sold my L200 4 Life, 2000 model. In the 9 years that I've had it, it's never let me down. It failed 2 MOT's, one a few years ago because of a worn ball joint and the last one with a corroded brake pipe.
I have a £15,000 budget in mind and was thinking of a SWB Shogun to replace it, that was until I started reading the reviews, apart form the engine, gearbox, electrical and fueling issues they seem to have certain areas that are prone to rust. Rust for Christ's sake, on a 4 year old car?

Kermit power

29,472 posts

220 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I don't know what I'd replace my Shogun with!

It's a 1999 LWB, so I pay a relative pittance in road tax. It's done 180,000 miles or so, with the last 35k being in my ownership. I've spent probably around £1k keeping it running, but a fair amount of that is as the result of immersing it in mud and water on a pretty regular basis, so excellent value for money really.

Add to that the fact that it's a separate ladder chassis & body, so any rust that does turn up (and there's hardly any) is much less of an issue from an MOT point of view.

It's great, and I'll no doubt run it until it does eventually drop, but I can't see that happening for a good few years yet. I'm about to pay £300 to get the belts & water pump changed, which on a truck worth £1k at most has to be a pretty good indicator of my faith in it! smile

I certainly wouldn't want to get one of the newer ones. They've made them all monocoque and seem to have compromised the off-road ability to make it more car-like. My truck is a pleasure to drive for hundreds of miles at a time even on ATs, so why would I need it to be more car-like?

smegmore

3,091 posts

183 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Keep it KP, a great motor, mine's a '97 LWB 3000 GLS and I wouldn't part with it no matter what.

Drives well at speed on ATs - check

big and comfy - check

big lump with plenty of power - check

auto box - check

electronic everything - check

thirsty as fk - check hehe

Earlier this year in France the crank pulley bolt came loose and the pulley split and took out all the belts, cost 1550 euros to fix including a recon rad as mine had only the water tubes remaining on one side. Well worth it to me. I drove from St Malo to Torrevieja stopping only for fuel and wee breaks, 1000+ miles in 14 hrs, no problem.

Kermit power

29,472 posts

220 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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That actually sounds like a bargain!

One of my bigger spends was a new rad (I got the old one rather terminally muddy!) and Mitsubishi quoted something like 512 quid plus VAT for a new one!!!! Aftermarket was something like 210 all in.

smegmore

3,091 posts

183 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Kermit power said:
That actually sounds like a bargain!

One of my bigger spends was a new rad (I got the old one rather terminally muddy!) and Mitsubishi quoted something like 512 quid plus VAT for a new one!!!! Aftermarket was something like 210 all in.
I had a recon, new core and pressure tested, from memory I think it was about 300 euros, the repairs, apart from the rad, were carried out by the local Mitsubishi dealer so not a bad price I reckon especially with a new timing belt included.

grumpy

Original Poster:

970 posts

248 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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Kermit power said:
It's a 1999 LWB,........ which on a truck worth £1k at most has to be a pretty good indicator of my faith in it! smile
£2,400 for my old truck, (2000), was a good deal for me then.

Kermit power

29,472 posts

220 months

Friday 20th July 2012
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grumpy said:
£2,400 for my old truck, (2000), was a good deal for me then.
Mine stinks of cooking mud whenever the exhaust gets hot, and has various tree-shaped dents and scratches decorating it! hehe

daveake

687 posts

233 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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smegmore said:
Keep it KP, a great motor, mine's a '97 LWB 3000 GLS and I wouldn't part with it no matter what.

Drives well at speed on ATs - check

big and comfy - check

big lump with plenty of power - check

auto box - check

electronic everything - check

thirsty as fk - check hehe
As of noon-ish today I'll be an owner of one too smile Same model as yours, an auto with the DOP. Not expecting to do too many miles in it (it's a 3rd car after a '97 406 coupe and '99 Elise) but even so it won't be that long before the petrol spend exceeds the purchase price! Hopefully maintenance costs won't be too bad. It has a few minor battle scars but the inside is in very good nick considering the age and 150k miles. Drives very well.

Aside from fitting my criteria (big/cheap/bombproof/4x4) the plate has my initials on it. Hope that didn't cloud my judgement too much smile

grumpy

Original Poster:

970 posts

248 months

Saturday 21st July 2012
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Kermit power said:
Mine stinks of cooking mud whenever the exhaust gets hot, and has various tree-shaped dents and scratches decorating it! hehe
Mine was stolen/recovered during my tenure and while on it's holiday it was used to write-off a police van.

Tuff old bird.

grumpy

Original Poster:

970 posts

248 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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Sod it, bought a 2008 4.2L XF.

jay140285

626 posts

191 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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Kermit power said:
I don't know what I'd replace my Shogun with!

It's a 1999 LWB, so I pay a relative pittance in road tax. It's done 180,000 miles or so, with the last 35k being in my ownership. I've spent probably around £1k keeping it running, but a fair amount of that is as the result of immersing it in mud and water on a pretty regular basis, so excellent value for money really.

Add to that the fact that it's a separate ladder chassis & body, so any rust that does turn up (and there's hardly any) is much less of an issue from an MOT point of view.

It's great, and I'll no doubt run it until it does eventually drop, but I can't see that happening for a good few years yet. I'm about to pay £300 to get the belts & water pump changed, which on a truck worth £1k at most has to be a pretty good indicator of my faith in it! smile

I certainly wouldn't want to get one of the newer ones. They've made them all monocoque and seem to have compromised the off-road ability to make it more car-like. My truck is a pleasure to drive for hundreds of miles at a time even on ATs, so why would I need it to be more car-like?
Reading this on another thread in general gassing I think KP might be shopping for its replacement soon.

Hope you get back to the uk ok mate.