Land Rover 110 or Range Rover LSE
Discussion
Ok, after a lot of looking I have got 2 possible 4x4's lined up. Both quite similar, but could do with real world experience. Both will get used for Motorway/City use ... as well as for Dogs, runs to the tip etc. Would be a second car, mainly for winter. I have no real off road use, other than recreational. But after buying a cheap Pajero for winter last year, it got me out of a lot of trouble hence another 4x4 this year. We live in the middle of a load of country lanes. I'll probably sell again early next year.
So I have a choice of a scruffy but well maintained Range Rover LSE, running on LPG, will cost about £1500 all MOT'd & taxed ... or a Land Rover 110 County V8, again LPG ... scruffy bit sound & running, and could be improved with a bit of elbow grease. Will cost a bit more, £1750 ish.
So, I love the concept of the 110, never had a 'proper' Landrover .. but will this be a pain on the Motorway, and driving in London .. especially being manual. I have a feeling it is quite cheap, and there is always a market for a decent S/H defender whatever the season.
I know the Range Rover is the sensible choice. I know the car, it has been used to tow classics to the South of France and back, so it's reliable. But I think it might be hard to shift when the sun comes out next year.
Anyone got any thoughts
So I have a choice of a scruffy but well maintained Range Rover LSE, running on LPG, will cost about £1500 all MOT'd & taxed ... or a Land Rover 110 County V8, again LPG ... scruffy bit sound & running, and could be improved with a bit of elbow grease. Will cost a bit more, £1750 ish.
So, I love the concept of the 110, never had a 'proper' Landrover .. but will this be a pain on the Motorway, and driving in London .. especially being manual. I have a feeling it is quite cheap, and there is always a market for a decent S/H defender whatever the season.
I know the Range Rover is the sensible choice. I know the car, it has been used to tow classics to the South of France and back, so it's reliable. But I think it might be hard to shift when the sun comes out next year.
Anyone got any thoughts
Thanks, not not building stuff .... last load was bits of accumulated wood, old brake discs ... couple of gallons of used oil etc .... your interest in the 110, does make me think this is the way to go ... !!.
I have also realised that if it states more than 9 seats on the V5, I should be able to get it free of the London Congestion Charge, which is handy. we live about 40 miles away, but I do work in London quite a bit.
I have also realised that if it states more than 9 seats on the V5, I should be able to get it free of the London Congestion Charge, which is handy. we live about 40 miles away, but I do work in London quite a bit.
check this thread out ,and the link about 7 posts in,about low emission zone or somat.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
you can put the reg in to see if said vehicle falls into catagory.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
you can put the reg in to see if said vehicle falls into catagory.
Having had both a Defender 90 and a Range Rover I would definitely go for the Range Rover!
Miles more comfortable and easier around town, the 90 was not very manoeuvrable so I can see the 110 being even worse... Although if you've not had a Defender and it is on your 'To do list' then you should perhaps go for that. Although maybe you will regret it when you realise how long the heating takes to warm up and how the demisters don't work very well etc etc...
Not trying to put you off it but I highly recommend trying one out before you buy. They are very different vehicles.
Miles more comfortable and easier around town, the 90 was not very manoeuvrable so I can see the 110 being even worse... Although if you've not had a Defender and it is on your 'To do list' then you should perhaps go for that. Although maybe you will regret it when you realise how long the heating takes to warm up and how the demisters don't work very well etc etc...
Not trying to put you off it but I highly recommend trying one out before you buy. They are very different vehicles.
In that price range, I would make the decision by prodding around underneath with a screwdriver.
If the 110 has a decent bulkhead and rear crossmember it would probably be a good buy. With the RR, I'd mostly be interested in the condition of the inner sills, floor, rear wheelarches, body mounts and rear body crossmember (n.b. not so much the chassis crossmember; these don't rot as badly as what lurks above). Read up on the faults that apply to each; the web has enough on them that there's no need to list it all here.
Assuming they're both sound (they won't be), see which you prefer sitting in.
fwiw, I ran a RRC beside my 110 for a few years. Fuel consumption aside, the RR would have been first choice on the motorway for reasons of noise and comfort. The 110 is good in town because it's narrow and you can see out really well.
If the 110 has a decent bulkhead and rear crossmember it would probably be a good buy. With the RR, I'd mostly be interested in the condition of the inner sills, floor, rear wheelarches, body mounts and rear body crossmember (n.b. not so much the chassis crossmember; these don't rot as badly as what lurks above). Read up on the faults that apply to each; the web has enough on them that there's no need to list it all here.
Assuming they're both sound (they won't be), see which you prefer sitting in.
fwiw, I ran a RRC beside my 110 for a few years. Fuel consumption aside, the RR would have been first choice on the motorway for reasons of noise and comfort. The 110 is good in town because it's narrow and you can see out really well.
Eggman said:
In that price range, I would make the decision by prodding around underneath with a screwdriver.
If the 110 has a decent bulkhead and rear crossmember it would probably be a good buy. With the RR, I'd mostly be interested in the condition of the inner sills, floor, rear wheelarches, body mounts and rear body crossmember (n.b. not so much the chassis crossmember; these don't rot as badly as what lurks above). Read up on the faults that apply to each; the web has enough on them that there's no need to list it all here.
Assuming they're both sound (they won't be), see which you prefer sitting in.
fwiw, I ran a RRC beside my 110 for a few years. Fuel consumption aside, the RR would have been first choice on the motorway for reasons of noise and comfort. The 110 is good in town because it's narrow and you can see out really well.
That seems to be good advice. I have known the RR for at least 7 years via the last 2 owners. I know it has new inner sills, inner wings and other bits and pieces along it's life. I also drove it to NIce and back, so I know it goes !If the 110 has a decent bulkhead and rear crossmember it would probably be a good buy. With the RR, I'd mostly be interested in the condition of the inner sills, floor, rear wheelarches, body mounts and rear body crossmember (n.b. not so much the chassis crossmember; these don't rot as badly as what lurks above). Read up on the faults that apply to each; the web has enough on them that there's no need to list it all here.
Assuming they're both sound (they won't be), see which you prefer sitting in.
fwiw, I ran a RRC beside my 110 for a few years. Fuel consumption aside, the RR would have been first choice on the motorway for reasons of noise and comfort. The 110 is good in town because it's narrow and you can see out really well.
110 is completely unknown, and miles away ! but looks so good !!
Appearances can be deceptive though; my 110 could be made to look decent with a wash, but in addition to the rear crossmember repairs over the years has required fairly extensive welding to the dumb irons (very front of the chassis), the front crossmember (under the radiator) and the bulkhead outrigger.
I had to put a gearbox in it a while back because the input shaft splines and layshaft bearings were on their last legs.
All common enough faults that its more a matter of when they'll need doing than 'if'.
I had to put a gearbox in it a while back because the input shaft splines and layshaft bearings were on their last legs.
All common enough faults that its more a matter of when they'll need doing than 'if'.
Camaro I believe, not mine ... and quite heavily modified. Bought by a mate of a mate !. He lives in S.France, his Son lives in LA. Import the car via the UK and then taken to France, easier on the paperwork I think.
Might have a pic of the engine somewhere ... it involved much chrome !
Might have a pic of the engine somewhere ... it involved much chrome !
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