wheel spacers ??
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you're tyres will catch your arches if you're planning on doing any sort of off roading for starters.
as said above, even if you're studs are long enough (dont think they will be) its not a great idea. get some wider tyres maybe? however dont get too wide or too big because you run the risk of catching the arches again.
also as i learnt from experience, dont put too bigger tyres on a series as a) it will increase the weight of you're steering b) depending on your lump under the bonnet, it'll feel much less powerful! this is assuming you've not got a 200TDI conversion.
as said above, even if you're studs are long enough (dont think they will be) its not a great idea. get some wider tyres maybe? however dont get too wide or too big because you run the risk of catching the arches again.
also as i learnt from experience, dont put too bigger tyres on a series as a) it will increase the weight of you're steering b) depending on your lump under the bonnet, it'll feel much less powerful! this is assuming you've not got a 200TDI conversion.
mcjimny said:
Tell me you're joking???
Quite possibly one of the most stupid ideas i've ever heard of!
Buy proper spacers or offset rims.
I'll second that!Quite possibly one of the most stupid ideas i've ever heard of!
Buy proper spacers or offset rims.
If I recall correctly the studs on Series Land Rovers are intended to secure the rims to the hub and share the load with the drive flange which can act as a load bearing spigot.
lukelandrover said:
ok i get the point, fair enough, yes im running a 2.5 tdi, can i ask could i just replace the springs on the back to parabolis ? or must i do all 4 ? its just i dont reall have the money, at age of 16
If you're short of cash, why not just refurb the springs you already have?A lot of people forget that leaf springs need to be greased up regularly for them to work properly.
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camel_landy said:
lukelandrover said:
ok i get the point, fair enough, yes im running a 2.5 tdi, can i ask could i just replace the springs on the back to parabolis ? or must i do all 4 ? its just i dont reall have the money, at age of 16
If you're short of cash, why not just refurb the springs you already have?A lot of people forget that leaf springs need to be greased up regularly for them to work properly.
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If you insist on going for Para's, really you should do all four at the same time to keep the balance (it isn't the end of the world if you only do 2, as long as they are the rears so that you don't lift the headlights too far).
Whatever you do, don't buy s
tpart springs. They may be a little cheaper than the quality makes, but there are a too many stories of them snapping or straightening out pretty quickly. Save up some money & go to GB Springs for some decent kit that'll last forever.Have a read through the Series Landy section on Landyzone.co.uk. They are a pretty active forum & more than happy to offer advice.
lukelandrover said:
ok i get the point, fair enough, yes im running a 2.5 tdi, can i ask could i just replace the springs on the back to parabolis ? or must i do all 4 ? its just i dont reall have the money, at age of 16
I think you need to decide what it is you are trying to achieve.Many aftermarket rims have a greater offset and will make the wheels stick out the arches more so. Too much though and you'll need to fit some flares to be legal for road use or even competition use.
Alternatively there are proper wheel spacers. But you should only run these for the right reasons. It would be dangerous to space a wheel out with shims or in the manner you described.
With regards to parabolics. Yes you can mix and match, but you need to know why you are doing it and for what gain.
Sadly Land Rover's leaf design is rather archaic in design. Standard ones can be made to perform ok, but there are alternatives.
The issue with parabolics is cheap ones are generally rubbish. You also need to match the spring weight with the vehicle weight and intended use.
Are you trying to gain more flex and articulation, or is it about ride quality?
Happy to help more, but I need some info from you to do so.
schmalex said:
The cheapest way of doing this is to change the engine oil & drain the old engine oil into a bucket & add a little petrol. Get underneath and paint the oil / petrol mixture all over the springs (really lather it on). Then, get one of your fatter mates to help you bounce the truck up and down (or take it up you local green lane) to really get the suspension flexing.
Might give this a go on my Jeep's Leaf Springs as I've just changed the oil - how much petrol should you put in per litre of oil please?lukelandrover said:
no the leafs have had it ! cracked the rear two, i had already decided against spacers, but i assume that parabolics on the rear is acceptable ? there not cheap ones mind !
another thing, do you think defender wheel arches fit on a series ?
cheers
Parabolics are a good upgrade in terms of comfort, each leaf is separated so acts in a similar way to an individual coil on a coil spring.another thing, do you think defender wheel arches fit on a series ?
cheers
The biggest issue is, many are heavy duty, so ride hard and don't flex at which makes them rubbish off road. Others are too soft and weak, so sag very quickly, but are also prone to survive spring wrapping.
I'd signup to one of the LR forums for more info. But my research has lead to:
-Haystee, the original parabolics. Hugely good and hugely expensive.
-Rocky Mountain Spares, a copy of the Haystee ones, very good (maybe cheaper steal), cheaper than Haystee, but still premium money.
-GB Springs, I've heard mixed reviews about them. Some who have them say they are ok, but I don't know any stats nor seen any pictures to back this up.
-All others I've heard reports that they are total rubbish and a waste of money.
If you fancy a more ambitious project, do a little research into a SOA (Spring Over Axle) conversion. If the LR is a toy, then you might.
Yes Defender flares can be made to fit a Series, or there are some companies which sell specific ones for a S3 (they are usually a bit smaller).
I put GB Para's on my 88" S3 earlier this year. They seem to be well made & come in a couple of different specifications, depending on whether you are carrying heavy stuff or not (I went for 3 leaf rears, as I very rarely carry heavy stuff in the truck).
Being handed, the vehicle doesn't lean to the drivers side (a common problem with many springs, as much of the weight in a Series is biased to the Off Side RHS).
The more I drive on them, the better they get (although my truck only does 2 - 3k miles a year at most).
Being handed, the vehicle doesn't lean to the drivers side (a common problem with many springs, as much of the weight in a Series is biased to the Off Side RHS).
The more I drive on them, the better they get (although my truck only does 2 - 3k miles a year at most).
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