Take That, etc

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The real Apache

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Saturday 20th November 2010
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Watching Children in Need last night it occured to me that music as I knew it has died, all we get is an endless stream of mediocrity from people like JLS, Alexandra Burke, The Saturdays, Girls Aloud, Boyzone, Will Young, Take That etc and all they manage is mediocre ballads, not one of them can even play an instrument, it's like going back to the late sixties/early seventies with The Archies, The Hollies and The BeeGees etc, (mind you, they were a fk sight better than todays dreary offerings) what happened to rock, punk, blues and all their progeny?
Pete Waterman did an enormous amount of damage to cutting edge music, effectively blunting it with overwhelming corporate finance and marketing, Simon Cowell is doing the same, damn his eyes

Paul Drawmer

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273 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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lounge please

lost in espace

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213 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Apache, 31k posts and you post this in GG? Are you mad, or is this bating?

The real Apache

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290 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Sorry mods, missus was nagging me.....

soad

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182 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Never bought a damn song from the above list of fine "artists" whistle

Kinky

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275 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Moved

Shotgun Rider

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176 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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There's still plenty of decent music out there, just dont expect to find it in the charts etc.

BrabusMog

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192 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Whilst I agree with most of your sentiment, Gary Barlow (of Take That) can actually play the piano quite well.

xr287

874 posts

186 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Shotgun Rider said:
There's still plenty of decent music out there, just dont expect to find it in the charts etc.
This

Edinburger

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174 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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I think Howard in Take That also plays the drums.

But I agree with your general sentiment.

RichB

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290 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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lost in espace said:
Apache, 31k posts and you post this in GG? Are you mad, or is this bating?
I have no idea what you meant by this so I looked it up, now I'm not sure you know what you mean either hehe

This is slang for masturbating, the short way of saying it. Also the less embarrassing way of saying masturbating when speaking around adults and strangers.

The real Apache

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Saturday 20th November 2010
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xr287 said:
Shotgun Rider said:
There's still plenty of decent music out there, just dont expect to find it in the charts etc.
This
But, for a while, you could. From Free, Golden Earing, Motorhead up to Radiohead you could find it, and it did well, it's just these s like Cowell and Waterman who screw it all up in an attempt to get rich

Stu R

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221 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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There's always been plenty of dross in the charts, for as long as there has been charts IMO. That's because 10-15 year olds often like different things to people in their 20's, 30's and 40's. Look at the demographics of who's buying the music (or who they're buying it for) and it becomes very clear why the stuff many of us consider to be god awful, has become successful. Pop culture has always been guff, and marketing people who see a trend making, or with potential to make a huge pile of cash will always milk it for all it's worth.

I think it's worth taking a look at the charts in the 60's compared to now, where you've got the Rolling Stones mixing it up with say, the Beach Boys. Appealing to very different people, but not all that different to someone like Queens of the Stone Age or Kings of Leon mixing it up with Take That, JLS, ad nauseum.

The only real differences are the marketing mediums, and the exposure from TV shows and the like. I don't doubt the power of people like Simon Cowell and the like to churn out this teeny-pop nonsense month after month, but there's still some truly great bands out there that will be remembered decades after the quick-buck-brigade are long since forgotten. There are a few like Take That, however, who will be remembered for a very long time IMO.

RichB

52,620 posts

290 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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redcard I'm begining to object to The Beach Boys being used as a similie for Take That and JPS... wink Different to The Stones but in no way dross...

Stu R

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221 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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RichB said:
redcard I'm begining to object to The Beach Boys being used as a similie for Take That and JPS... wink Different to The Stones but in no way dross...
hehe Apologies, just a polar opposite who sprang to mind.

RichB

52,620 posts

290 months

Saturday 20th November 2010
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Stu R said:
RichB said:
redcard I'm begining to object to The Beach Boys being used as a similie for Take That and JPS... wink Different to The Stones but in no way dross...
hehe Apologies, just a polar opposite who sprang to mind.
Try Herman's Hermits or Peter, Paul and Mary wink

obscene

5,175 posts

191 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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Go out and see some live music and support up and coming artists. Only way to stop this current load of crap. Only problem is finding something you genuinely like.

elster

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216 months

Sunday 21st November 2010
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xr287 said:
Shotgun Rider said:
There's still plenty of decent music out there, just dont expect to find it in the charts etc.
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Wrong there is plenty of good music that makes it into the charts.

just because the radio don't play it 24/7 doesn't mean it isn't in the chart.

todd69

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220 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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BrabusMog said:
Whilst I agree with most of your sentiment, Gary Barlow (of Take That) can actually play the piano quite well.
The last tour they did had a fair chunk where they played as a band (all played musical instruments), was actually quite good.


I'll leave now ;-)

ShadownINja

77,406 posts

288 months

Monday 22nd November 2010
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The real Apache said:
what happened to rock, punk, blues and all their progeny?
Um. Well, Guns n Roses released an album last year (ignore the specifics of the band members); Slash launched an album this year, working with a number of rock singers. Rock's alive and kicking and just as good. Oh, and Iron Maiden are touring next year, IIRC.