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Now I suspect this maybe contentious amongst the yoof, but...
Why does he get the adulation he does?
His choice of tunes isn't groundbreaking, technically he isn't all that (and a bag of potato chips) and despite this wins this that and the other award.
For why?
Now I've done the clubbing scene, properly, for 20 years and I see what he does as no different at all to Oakey circa 2000 if anything, without the elegance.
Even if you compare him to his contemporaries the Swedish House Mafia he's distinctly lacking.
I'm genuinely at a loss.
Perhaps someone could englighten me?
(And don't say, you're getting old Plotters)
Why does he get the adulation he does?
His choice of tunes isn't groundbreaking, technically he isn't all that (and a bag of potato chips) and despite this wins this that and the other award.
For why?
Now I've done the clubbing scene, properly, for 20 years and I see what he does as no different at all to Oakey circa 2000 if anything, without the elegance.
Even if you compare him to his contemporaries the Swedish House Mafia he's distinctly lacking.
I'm genuinely at a loss.
Perhaps someone could englighten me?
(And don't say, you're getting old Plotters)
Looking at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%C3%ABsto , I guess it's a combination of contacts/marketing/talent/diversity/hard work. Compare that to DJ ShadownINja who only plays to audiences of zero in his dining room because he isn't really bothered about DJing.
A few years ago (maybe showing my age here) he was well worth his awards, but now the only reason I can see him winning anything is because he is one of very few who puts on a whole show/event where it is just him playing, although having been to one, I wouldnt go again. He does seem to be the dj your told is good/you should like him, when he is middle of the road at best.
Off topic, but Plotloss I would greatly appreciate your advice on this
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Off topic, but Plotloss I would greatly appreciate your advice on this
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Seen him 3 times now. Twice in Ibiza and once in London.
He was better a few years ago before he went more mainstream.
In London last year he mainly played remixes of songs that were in the charts at the time. Not something a big dj should be doing in my opinion.
If I wanted re-hashes of chart songs I would go to any pub/club on a saturday night.
He was better a few years ago before he went more mainstream.
In London last year he mainly played remixes of songs that were in the charts at the time. Not something a big dj should be doing in my opinion.
If I wanted re-hashes of chart songs I would go to any pub/club on a saturday night.
I agree with plotloss, I have never really thought tiesto was all that. He is certainly no Armin Van Buuren, who is amazing, and to me, does stand out from the other highly ranked DJs. ASOT is my favourite weekly radio show.
Tiesto is just like PVD, oakenfold, ferry corsten. The only reason they're still so highly ranked in the top 100 dj list is because they were some of the first mainstream good trance DJs and a lot of people don't know any better. I'm not saying they're bad, but they're not outstanding.
Tiesto is just like PVD, oakenfold, ferry corsten. The only reason they're still so highly ranked in the top 100 dj list is because they were some of the first mainstream good trance DJs and a lot of people don't know any better. I'm not saying they're bad, but they're not outstanding.
Sorry to go against the grain here, but I'm a huge Tiesto fan. His podcast is very good and he's up there with AvB, A&B, Andy Moor etc...
He produces/remixes some great tracks, but I think the main reason he gets voted so highly, is that he puts on an amazing show when you see him live.
I went to see him in Victoria Park last August and was blown away.
He produces/remixes some great tracks, but I think the main reason he gets voted so highly, is that he puts on an amazing show when you see him live.
I went to see him in Victoria Park last August and was blown away.
His mix of Adagio for Strings is pretty epic, as is Urban Train and finally his mix of Oakenfolds Southern Sun. Thats about it really, everything else he's produced is nothing special in my opinion.
He's in it for the money these days, hence teaming up with Nelly Furtardo and indie sounding bands in a bid to make himself more accessible yet at the same time alienating his original fans.
He's in it for the money these days, hence teaming up with Nelly Furtardo and indie sounding bands in a bid to make himself more accessible yet at the same time alienating his original fans.
The set he did in Copenhagen on the Elements of Life tour (I have it on Blu Ray) was awesome... His stuff is definately more commercial now, but as a solid mixer, remixer and producer - he's pretty much spot on.
Tunes of his such as Close To You, Flight 643, and Lethal Industry are massive when played anywhere, and as said above his mix of Southern Sun was absolutely epic - even so far as to equal the original song (possibly even surpass it).
If you take it back to 99/00, Oakenfold was regarded in the same way as Tiesto is now - how big of a tune was "Bullet in the Gun" for example. Even stuff that came from the Oakenfold "Perfecto" stable like "Double Double Dutch" by the Dope Smugglaz went massive, everything he touched musically became a hit. That's what Tiesto is doing now. That's not to say he hasn't done it in the past tho, I bet that in any club, anywhere - if Gouryella was played, it would raise the roof.
Yes there are more technical DJs, and there are better producers - but with Tiesto people get the full package, which (imo) is why he's as well received as he is.
Tunes of his such as Close To You, Flight 643, and Lethal Industry are massive when played anywhere, and as said above his mix of Southern Sun was absolutely epic - even so far as to equal the original song (possibly even surpass it).
If you take it back to 99/00, Oakenfold was regarded in the same way as Tiesto is now - how big of a tune was "Bullet in the Gun" for example. Even stuff that came from the Oakenfold "Perfecto" stable like "Double Double Dutch" by the Dope Smugglaz went massive, everything he touched musically became a hit. That's what Tiesto is doing now. That's not to say he hasn't done it in the past tho, I bet that in any club, anywhere - if Gouryella was played, it would raise the roof.
Yes there are more technical DJs, and there are better producers - but with Tiesto people get the full package, which (imo) is why he's as well received as he is.
Monsterlime said:
I saw him last night at Victoria Park and had a brilliant time. Personally, I thought the set he played was excellent and he really got the crowd moving.
I err thought Pendulum were better, as well as the MixMag (I think) tent, but then again Ive been out of the scene for a good few years. Though I had to leave an hour or so early so missed the end of his set I like the stuff from about 2000-2001 like Lethal industry, Flight 643 and Suburban train. All great tunes and his first album that I cant mind the name of was brilliant, reminds me of when I first started being obsessed with cars, tooling about the local cruise in my mates 5 series when we were still at school.
Just be was really good as well but after that it sort of tapered out and I listened to his stuff a lot less after that.
He just seems to have really lost his way like so many of the good artists, he will keep doing this whole new thing for a few years, disappear for a bit then come back with something good hopefully.
Oh and his podcasts are good.
Just be was really good as well but after that it sort of tapered out and I listened to his stuff a lot less after that.
He just seems to have really lost his way like so many of the good artists, he will keep doing this whole new thing for a few years, disappear for a bit then come back with something good hopefully.
Oh and his podcasts are good.
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