Marshall 1974x Vs Fender Hot Rod Deluxe
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Anyone have any experience with both or either?
I'm looking for an amp I can use at home. Has to be all valve.
Played a lovely Marshall Bluesbreaker Reissue the other day but to get it 'working' it's at full whack!
I've heard great thing about the 1974x as it's only 18w but handwired and with a great tone that you can drive at lower volumes.
I also had a go on the Fender yesterday and was pleasantly surprised.
That said, there is a huge price difference - the Marshall is almost double.
Whatdya think?
I'm looking for an amp I can use at home. Has to be all valve.
Played a lovely Marshall Bluesbreaker Reissue the other day but to get it 'working' it's at full whack!
I've heard great thing about the 1974x as it's only 18w but handwired and with a great tone that you can drive at lower volumes.
I also had a go on the Fender yesterday and was pleasantly surprised.
That said, there is a huge price difference - the Marshall is almost double.
Whatdya think?
Both of those are nice amps - the Marshall especially so - but are too loud for home use. Or, put another way, at the volume you'd have to run them at in your home, most of the time at least, you might as well be running through your telly :-)
If you're serious about a home amp for home use, I'd get a smaller amp, possibly even one of them modern modelling amps, like a Vox or a Line6 whatever the models are. They'll be better at low volume stuff than the proper valve amps you mention.
Really small all-valve amps like the Blackstar HT5 might be worth a look for you as well, but they tend to be compromised in one way or the other, ie great distorted sound but hopeless clean, or vice versa.
If you're serious about a home amp for home use, I'd get a smaller amp, possibly even one of them modern modelling amps, like a Vox or a Line6 whatever the models are. They'll be better at low volume stuff than the proper valve amps you mention.
Really small all-valve amps like the Blackstar HT5 might be worth a look for you as well, but they tend to be compromised in one way or the other, ie great distorted sound but hopeless clean, or vice versa.
Asterix said:
I can go pretty loud (live in a detached villa with good double glazing) just not full on Bluesbreaker loud, which is proper loud 
OK, but do you want to all the time? I have an original Fender Deluxe Reverb (22 watts), which sounds all shades of fantastic, even at low-ish volumes, but still needs to be turned up to about 4 or more to really work. I can do it in the house with nobody around but it's a bit inconvenient if you just want to noodle a bit. So, in short, if the choice is really down to the two you mentioned I'd probably go for the Marshall, but the Fender might be more versatile, and, as you say, is certainly cheaper. It's not as nice as the Marshall though. Decisions!
chevy-stu said:
Bluesbreaker/Jtm45 all on full with a Strat or les Paul is just about the best it gets.. ! 
Yeah - I know Edited by chevy-stu on Tuesday 17th November 11:01
- had an hour ripping it at full chat with my Les Paul yesterday.Had an Amp testing day - the other I tested was a Fender Twin but too loud as with the Bluesbreaker.
Asterix said:
Anyone have any experience with both or either?
I'm looking for an amp I can use at home. Has to be all valve.
Played a lovely Marshall Bluesbreaker Reissue the other day but to get it 'working' it's at full whack!
Whatdya think?
The 1974x "Baby Bluesbreaker" is cooler than a very cool thing indeed but, at 18 watts with no master volume would I feel be quite a brave choice for a home amp :-)I'm looking for an amp I can use at home. Has to be all valve.
Played a lovely Marshall Bluesbreaker Reissue the other day but to get it 'working' it's at full whack!
Whatdya think?
I've got a Mesa Express 5:25 (which is lovely!) and on the 5 Watt setting it's still a bit of a handful round the house, in fact, if you don't need clean headroom it's loud enough to take on a drummer in a small room...
Marshall "Class 5" maybe? There was a guy giving one a good seeing to in my local guitar shop last time I was in, it's got the same sort of vibe as the 1974x and sounded chock full of old-school Marshall goodness - still pretty damned loud though!
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JG
I've got a blackstar ht-5 for the house which is great but even that gets pretty damn loud when you push it.
The wife bought me a line 6 ux2 computer interface which has a load of software which models amps and effects and so on... it's quite complicated but have a look at their website. Anyway, this sounds very good through headphones and through your standard hifi map at very reasonable volumes. I've only had it a week but think it's superb.
The wife bought me a line 6 ux2 computer interface which has a load of software which models amps and effects and so on... it's quite complicated but have a look at their website. Anyway, this sounds very good through headphones and through your standard hifi map at very reasonable volumes. I've only had it a week but think it's superb.
Mind your hearing folks.
I had an old Leslie 147 with my Hammond. It had 2 choked settings but in order to get the overdrive sound, you had to give it some beans in top. That was 40w. Could almost blow the windows out.
A few of my muso mates have tinnitus....sorry to sound like your mum.
I had an old Leslie 147 with my Hammond. It had 2 choked settings but in order to get the overdrive sound, you had to give it some beans in top. That was 40w. Could almost blow the windows out.
A few of my muso mates have tinnitus....sorry to sound like your mum.
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