Susan Boyle's version of Wild Horses
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...is, predictably enough, toe-curlingly awful. Cowellised to within in inch of its life, reducing the scruffy grandeur of the original to showy, faux-emotional, "impressive" warbling. With strings. And more warbling.
I'm sure people will love it. And hey, Jagger and Richards are laughing all the way to the bank.
I'm sure people will love it. And hey, Jagger and Richards are laughing all the way to the bank.
Totally disagree - I think it's the best version of this song that I have ever heard and I expect many other people will as well. In fact I think her version will make it a standard like Hallelujah has become in the last couple of years after being ignored for years until X-factor ( i think) made it popular.
She looks odd but the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional although there are occasional technical problems that will get sorted out by a singing coach over the next few months. I think she will be around long term and will eat your hat if she's disappeared frrom view in a couple of years.
Not only can she sing but people like her story as well but that wouldn't be enough in itself if the songs weren't up to scratch.
No-one is more surprised than me that I think this.....
L.F.
She looks odd but the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional although there are occasional technical problems that will get sorted out by a singing coach over the next few months. I think she will be around long term and will eat your hat if she's disappeared frrom view in a couple of years.
Not only can she sing but people like her story as well but that wouldn't be enough in itself if the songs weren't up to scratch.
No-one is more surprised than me that I think this.....
L.F.
lockhart flawse said:
Totally disagree - I think it's the best version of this song that I have ever heard and I expect many other people will as well. In fact I think her version will make it a standard like Hallelujah has become in the last couple of years after being ignored for years until X-factor ( i think) made it popular.
She looks odd but the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional although there are occasional technical problems that will get sorted out by a singing coach over the next few months. I think she will be around long term and will eat your hat if she's disappeared frrom view in a couple of years.
Not only can she sing but people like her story as well but that wouldn't be enough in itself if the songs weren't up to scratch.
No-one is more surprised than me that I think this.....
L.F.
Totally agree. I am a non-believer when it comes to Cowell and the X Type Pop Factory garbage is concerned. But this is a quality artist.She looks odd but the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional although there are occasional technical problems that will get sorted out by a singing coach over the next few months. I think she will be around long term and will eat your hat if she's disappeared frrom view in a couple of years.
Not only can she sing but people like her story as well but that wouldn't be enough in itself if the songs weren't up to scratch.
No-one is more surprised than me that I think this.....
L.F.
Haven't heard her version to comment although I do have my preconceptions...
I will say though that her elevating it to becoming 'a standard' is a bit rich. Making it familiar to the saturday night couch potatoes perhaps.
I'd argue it's been a standard for 40 odd years.
The other version I like is by The Sundays.
I will say though that her elevating it to becoming 'a standard' is a bit rich. Making it familiar to the saturday night couch potatoes perhaps.
I'd argue it's been a standard for 40 odd years.
The other version I like is by The Sundays.
So the original version, with music and lyrics written by the people who were to play the music and sing the song, to match their own personal style and abilities…….Keith Richards and Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, is inferior to the Simon Cowell produced Susan Boyle version……?
Right….yes….of course it is…..
Right….yes….of course it is…..
Ok - listened to it.
Not bad. However, no better than many 'good' singers could do. I don't like the arrangement, trying too hard to tug at the old heart strings, comes across over dramatical.
Please don't think I'm bashing her. I wish her all the best and I hope she lives her dream, but it is a pale imitation of the original. The best this will do is bring the original to the ears of today's generation.
I remember playing my missus the original of Talk Talk's 'It's my life' and she (having only heard the No Doubt version) was completely blown away - so much more meaning, soul and heart.
Hallelujah was mentioned earlier - nothing can touch Buckley's version - that guy had more talent in his little finger than anyone else that ever covered it and it shows - others sing it, he felt it.
'One' by U2 - I'm a huge fan of the version by Mary J Blige but the original still takes the top step of the podium by a million miles - it just has that quality that a cover can never have.
As a reminder - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g69labQKuuU
Dear old Susan would have sung it and walked away - these guys lived it, wrote it, performed it and stood by it.
The Sundays version for reference - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lEd5bIbbQ&fea...
Not bad. However, no better than many 'good' singers could do. I don't like the arrangement, trying too hard to tug at the old heart strings, comes across over dramatical.
Please don't think I'm bashing her. I wish her all the best and I hope she lives her dream, but it is a pale imitation of the original. The best this will do is bring the original to the ears of today's generation.
I remember playing my missus the original of Talk Talk's 'It's my life' and she (having only heard the No Doubt version) was completely blown away - so much more meaning, soul and heart.
Hallelujah was mentioned earlier - nothing can touch Buckley's version - that guy had more talent in his little finger than anyone else that ever covered it and it shows - others sing it, he felt it.
'One' by U2 - I'm a huge fan of the version by Mary J Blige but the original still takes the top step of the podium by a million miles - it just has that quality that a cover can never have.
As a reminder - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g69labQKuuU
Dear old Susan would have sung it and walked away - these guys lived it, wrote it, performed it and stood by it.
The Sundays version for reference - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9lEd5bIbbQ&fea...
Edited by Asterix on Thursday 15th October 18:50
I'm going to add another comment - where the young and pretty talent show winners get the new rauchy songs from unknown hidden backroom writers - Kelly Clarkson as an example - Boyle will do the classics. Some she'll do adequately, others she'll destroy.
I'm ex-music industry and really understand how this stuff works - my old band has been covered, sampled and remixed before (won't go into that) and I'm sorry, I'm a huge cynic, and deservedly so.
I'm ex-music industry and really understand how this stuff works - my old band has been covered, sampled and remixed before (won't go into that) and I'm sorry, I'm a huge cynic, and deservedly so.
TEKNOPUG said:
So the original version, with music and lyrics written by the people who were to play the music and sing the song, to match their own personal style and abilities…….Keith Richards and Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, is inferior to the Simon Cowell produced Susan Boyle version……?
Right….yes….of course it is…..
Quite. I should perhaps add to my OP that I don't mind Susan Boyle at all, I think she's great. I just think the song is wrong for her, and the arrangement, which I'm sure she had no hand in, sucks majorly. I mean, what will she do next? Highway to Hell?Right….yes….of course it is…..
Edited by nonplussed on Thursday 15th October 21:29
Asterix - you should be a jornalist! I didn't say "her voice is truly exceptional" I said "the tone and quality of her voice is truly exceptional" which is quite different.
First time I have seen Ella Fitzgerald and Karen Carpenter bracketed together as well.....bit of an insult to Karen Carpenter I think. :-)
L.F.
First time I have seen Ella Fitzgerald and Karen Carpenter bracketed together as well.....bit of an insult to Karen Carpenter I think. :-)
L.F.
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