100's of hit songs with the same 5 chords...
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ShadownINja said:
What's all this I V VI IV stuff??
It's a basic form of notation for chords, which doesn't rely on you knowing the key the piece is written in. The figures are roman numerals.If you are not a musician read on:
A scale is made up of 7 different notes, and to put it simply the numbers refer to which note, where I is the lowest, the chord is based on.
For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
For Pachelbel's Canon (which is in D major with the notes of the scale as D E Fsharp G A B Csharp D), the chords are D major, A major, B minor, Fsharp minor, G major, D major, G major, A major.
tank slapper said:
ShadownINja said:
What's all this I V VI IV stuff??
It's a basic form of notation for chords, which doesn't rely on you knowing the key the piece is written in. The figures are roman numerals.If you are not a musician read on:
A scale is made up of 7 different notes, and to put it simply the numbers refer to which note, where I is the lowest, the chord is based on.
For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
For Pachelbel's Canon (which is in D major with the notes of the scale as D E Fsharp G A B Csharp D), the chords are D major, A major, B minor, Fsharp minor, G major, D major, G major, A major.
ShadownINja said:
Thanks for the explanation. I play classical piano but have never come across the use of roman numerals to denote the key.
Well it doesn't actually denote key, it denotes progressions from any given key. I learnt all the jazz standards like that (and had a book full of them written that way) so if for instance, a sax player joined in and wanted to play something I couldn't remember by heart, I could read the roman numerals and it mattered not what key they wanted to do it in. If I'd had a tune written in Eb and a singer wanted to sing it in B, it would have been a nightmare to read! Roman numerals make it a piece of pi55Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 29th September 09:33
tank slapper said:
A scale is made up of 7 different notes, and to put it simply the numbers refer to which note, where I is the lowest, the chord is based on.
For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
I can see most of this but where does the A minor come into it? For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
esselte said:
tank slapper said:
A scale is made up of 7 different notes, and to put it simply the numbers refer to which note, where I is the lowest, the chord is based on.
For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
I can see most of this but where does the A minor come into it? For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
thehawk said:
esselte said:
tank slapper said:
A scale is made up of 7 different notes, and to put it simply the numbers refer to which note, where I is the lowest, the chord is based on.
For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
I can see most of this but where does the A minor come into it? For the video, if the key is C major, (the notes of which are C D E F G A B C) the chords would be C major, G major, A minor, and F major.
I understand the numbering of the notes ie I=C V=G etc but can't see why we get an A minor.. (can play guitar but my theory isn't awfully good )
It's easiest to just accept that the Chord progression associated with any key goes: major chord, minor, minor, major, major, minor, diminished. So for the key of C the associated chord progression is C(major), Dminor, Eminor, F, G, Amin, Bdim.
Ever noticed how all those songs you play in the key of G have Em (and Am and Bm) in them? Thats because in the key of G the Chords are G, Am, Bm, C, D, Em. eg Whiskey In the Jar, Brown Eyed girl and a million others - which kind of brings you back to the OPs point - when you only (simplistically) have 7 chords in any key to chose from ALOT of songs are going to end up with the same progressions.
Ever noticed how all those songs you play in the key of G have Em (and Am and Bm) in them? Thats because in the key of G the Chords are G, Am, Bm, C, D, Em. eg Whiskey In the Jar, Brown Eyed girl and a million others - which kind of brings you back to the OPs point - when you only (simplistically) have 7 chords in any key to chose from ALOT of songs are going to end up with the same progressions.
Edited by russell_ram on Wednesday 30th September 12:36
russell_ram said:
It's easiest to just accept that the Chord progression associated with any key goes: major chord, minor, minor, major, major, minor, diminished. So for the key of C the associated chord progression is C(major), Dminor, Eminor, F, G, Amin, Bdim.
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