Bloody Autotune!

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Driller

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8,310 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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No it's not a device which keeps your PAJ in good order...

It's a foul invention, an effects processor that corrects pitch by bringing it up or down to the nearest note in the corresponding key of the song.

In other words, you sing out of tune and it drags your voice back in tune. It gives itself away by making the singers voice sound rather metalic and synth-like. They used it to its extreme as an effect on that Cher song "life after love".

It just means that there are even more talentless wanabees who are able to make a claim in the ever more dumbed down music business.

And the really infuriating thing? Nobody knows about it! I imagine very few folk on here have ever heard of it. Understandable in itself but it just means that these non-singers get away by faking it in the studio as well as on stage. (lost count of the numbers at the Brits who had it on).

Meh, there you are, a half hearted rant of a thing. I give myself 1/2 out of ten.


Poledriver

28,762 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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I worked in the Pro-Audio industry for 25 years, the Auto-tune is the thin end of the wedge, you'd be surprised at the tricks some very famous people have used!

Neil_H

15,338 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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Driller said:
Meh, there you are, a half hearted rant of a thing. I give myself 1/2 out of ten.

Swearing forgone completely, no passion and more crucially, your rant is at least 10 years out of date. I'll give you 0/10.

Driller

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8,310 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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Poledriver said:
I worked in the Pro-Audio industry for 25 years, the Auto-tune is the thin end of the wedge, you'd be surprised at the tricks some very famous people have used!
ears

Poledriver

28,762 posts

200 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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Driller said:
Poledriver said:
I worked in the Pro-Audio industry for 25 years, the Auto-tune is the thin end of the wedge, you'd be surprised at the tricks some very famous people have used!
ears
nono What happens on tour, stays on tour!
That may change later when I get back from the pub after my usual gallon of HSB

Driller

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8,310 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th February 2009
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Poledriver said:
Driller said:
Poledriver said:
I worked in the Pro-Audio industry for 25 years, the Auto-tune is the thin end of the wedge, you'd be surprised at the tricks some very famous people have used!
ears
nono What happens on tour, stays on tour!
That may change later when I get back from the pub after my usual gallon of HSB
Aw come on! Anyway, how bad can it be other than drenching the main vocals with delay/chorus to cover up sloppy vocals? Come on, you know you want to tell wink

NDA

22,180 posts

231 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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Driller said:
I imagine very few folk on here have ever heard of it.

I use it in the studio - it can add some interesting effects to vocals. The harmony products are quite interesting too.

Given we use synthesisers, vocoders, eq, reverb and the rest - I don't think we should be shy of any electronics. smile

Driller

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284 months

Friday 20th February 2009
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NDA said:
Driller said:
I imagine very few folk on here have ever heard of it.

I use it in the studio - it can add some interesting effects to vocals. The harmony products are quite interesting too.

Given we use synthesisers, vocoders, eq, reverb and the rest - I don't think we should be shy of any electronics. smile
I posted this in P&P originally so I didn't expect anybody to know what it was. Of course, now this has been scuppered by it being moved over here where all the musos hang out hehe

I agree that Autotune can be used to great effect as an... um... effect. It's its original use that drives me mad ie to get people to sing in tune who otherwise can't. It's a crutch for talent.

timbob

2,147 posts

258 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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As terrible, bad, annoying, and downright cheating as Autotune is, at least the talentless singers are actually singing at their gigs.

The thing that annoys me most of all is "bands" "singing" at their "gigs", when in reality they're just prancing about, miming to a studio recorded, autotuned backing track.

What you don't want to do in that situation is ps off your sound engineer, like Britney Spears did. Because then he might take what actually came through her vocal mic on a gig, lay it on top of the proper video, just so we can really hear what she sings like live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT_QB7tBxyg

Nolar Dog

8,786 posts

201 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Poledriver said:
...when I get back from the pub after my usual gallon of HSB
HSB? Tell me more please? smile

Poledriver

28,762 posts

200 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
Poledriver said:
...when I get back from the pub after my usual gallon of HSB
HSB? Tell me more please? smile
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GetCarter

29,559 posts

285 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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I was working last week with people that worked on Cher's 'Life after Love'. I could tell you some stories!

PH rules forbid me.

As for singers, they are mostly a pointless waste of space. I far prefer working with musicians.

NDA

22,180 posts

231 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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My brother in law has a wonderful voice - had a few number one's in the 80's both here and in the USA.

Sadly he's addicted to dope which has melted his brain.

Markh

2,781 posts

281 months

Saturday 21st February 2009
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Poledriver said:
Nolar Dog said:
Poledriver said:
...when I get back from the pub after my usual gallon of HSB
HSB? Tell me more please? smile
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Memories, my dad used to have a Gales Pub many years ago

Lauross

397 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Anyone else think that it sounded good on Kanye West's 808s and Heartbreak?


Lauross

397 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd February 2009
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Anyone else think that it sounded good on Kanye West's 808s and Heartbreak?


esselte

14,626 posts

273 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Went to Music Live at the NEC a while ago and heard TC Helicon's Voice works kit...very difficult to hera the difference between that and an "unadulterated" voice....

crofty1984

16,166 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd February 2009
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Lauross said:
Anyone else think that it sounded good on Kanye West's 808s and Heartbreak?
I think Lauross does.

Edited by crofty1984 on Monday 23 February 16:57

Driller

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284 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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esselte said:
Went to Music Live at the NEC a while ago and heard TC Helicon's Voice works kit...very difficult to hera the difference between that and an "unadulterated" voice....
Yeah but the point is not whether you can hear it or not, the point is having to use it at all...

esselte

14,626 posts

273 months

Tuesday 24th February 2009
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Driller said:
esselte said:
Went to Music Live at the NEC a while ago and heard TC Helicon's Voice works kit...very difficult to hera the difference between that and an "unadulterated" voice....
Yeah but the point is not whether you can hear it or not, the point is having to use it at all...
Yes I agree,the point I was trying to make was that with some kit it's very easy for people to be fooled into thinking whst they hear,either live or on record bears any resemblance to what is actually being sung....ie the voice doesn't sound robotic etc.....I love live music and would much prefer to hear it warts an' all rather than a "synthesised" performance....