Learning to drum

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evenflow

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8,795 posts

288 months

Wednesday 28th November 2007
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I've always, always wanted to learn to play the drums. So now I'm thinking I might do.
Is finding a teacher always the best place to start? Or is there some home-study you can do with some pots and pans? wink

Ungarsee

371 posts

225 months

Thursday 29th November 2007
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Personally I would vote self taught all the way as you pick up your own style. When I started I bought a 'teach yourself' book and used it to death. Only problem I had was that I never bothered to watch any drummers and ended up teaching myself to play open handed rather than cross armed.

Also get jamming with some mates as soon as you can as playing on your todd is no fun at all.

By the way, I'm guessing from the name your a Pearl Jam fan? Listen to Dave Abruzzese on Vs, Vitalogy and any live stuff you can get your hands on, the man is a god

Twit

2,908 posts

270 months

Thursday 29th November 2007
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Certainly advise on getting jamming asap as drumming can be a lonely experience without other instruments around you. But I would get lessons to start with, if only to get a sense of rhythm and counting, it makes inventing drum runs much easier. Following lessons to get started just play and enjoy!

Also, consider kit, I have a full acoustic kit for gigging and stuff but also an electric on that can be played through headphones for practicing at home. If you have never played an acoustic kit before you will be amazed at how loud it sounds in an enclosed room... As will your neighbours!!!!!!

mulletmark

1,181 posts

229 months

Thursday 29th November 2007
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As a self taught drummer, I would suggest just messing around on the kit yourself and find your own style. Once you're confident enough to hold a good beat with the odd fill, get together with some mates and start jamming.

Another good resource is youtube - lots of drumming lessons on there, and also watching how other drummers do stuf can often give you hints and ideas.

With regard to drumming lessons, I had about a few lessons with a proper teacher, and IMHO it was money down the drain. I was hoping he could teach me some new tricks but he just spent a lot of the time going over stuff I alteady knew.

kiwisr

9,335 posts

213 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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Learn the rudiments.

Nobaccymaccy

572 posts

208 months

Friday 30th November 2007
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kiwisr said:
Learn the rudiments.
I thought that was a wind instrument ?

Ungarsee

371 posts

225 months

Saturday 1st December 2007
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Nobaccymaccy said:
kiwisr said:
Learn the rudiments.
I thought that was a wind instrument ?
You're thinking of the pink oboe laugh

Funk

26,498 posts

215 months

Saturday 1st December 2007
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I learned to play at an early age without lessons or books. I just listened to drummers I liked, watched how they played and then tried to emulate the skills and sounds I heard. Eventually you string it all together to make your own sound.

One of the things that's really become clear to me of late is the requirement to keep it simple. You're 'giving it some extra juice' but when you listen back to a recording, it sounds waaaaaay too busy. More important is the relationship between you and a bass-player, as you form the 'core' around which the rest of the music is played.

All the above advice is good, learn your rudiments, practice loads and experiment; there is no right or wrong! Above all, have fun.

Drumming rocks. cool

Kibosh

1,081 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st December 2007
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I'm typing this with an extremely sore shoulder from too much practise.....so warm up and warm down properly too!!

phlap

563 posts

258 months

Monday 3rd December 2007
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Funk said:
I learned to play at an early age without lessons or books. I just listened to drummers I liked, watched how they played and then tried to emulate the skills and sounds I heard. Eventually you string it all together to make your own sound.

One of the things that's really become clear to me of late is the requirement to keep it simple. You're 'giving it some extra juice' but when you listen back to a recording, it sounds waaaaaay too busy. More important is the relationship between you and a bass-player, as you form the 'core' around which the rest of the music is played.

All the above advice is good, learn your rudiments, practice loads and experiment; there is no right or wrong! Above all, have fun.

Drumming rocks. cool
yes Fully agree with the above. I think you'll make better progress with your own kit than just taking lessons. You can always have a lesson or two to get you going if you are a complate beginner. A 2nd hand kit can be suprisingly cheap. Just play along to the music you like and remember that it's more important to have good timing and control than to be flash.
It's also a great way of unwinding after a crappy day. music

evenflow

Original Poster:

8,795 posts

288 months

Monday 3rd December 2007
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Thanks for all the good advice people.

kiwisr

9,335 posts

213 months

Monday 3rd December 2007
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Kibosh said:
I'm typing this with an extremely sore shoulder from too much practise.....so warm up and warm down properly too!!
It sounds like your technique is wrong, the power should be coming from the wrist.

Funk

26,498 posts

215 months

Monday 3rd December 2007
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kiwisr said:
Kibosh said:
I'm typing this with an extremely sore shoulder from too much practise.....so warm up and warm down properly too!!
It sounds like your technique is wrong, the power should be coming from the wrist.
Agreed, I did a short gig last night (played for about an hour, all hectic stuff - we finished with 'Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor', as an example!!) and I have no aches or pains at all today. Love the adrenaline 'come-down' you get after a good gig too, it's one of the best natural highs in the world.

All the power should come from the wrist, and even then it's not all about power!

Cuban

5,161 posts

257 months

Monday 3rd December 2007
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Depending on your budget, a Roland V drum kit has to be the perfect way to start.

Good luck.

Funk

26,498 posts

215 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Cuban said:
Depending on your budget, a Roland V drum kit has to be the perfect way to start.

Good luck.
V-drums?! Christ, not for a beginner! Even I thought long and hard about V-Drums (and didn't go for them in the end). Get a reasonable acoustic kit - you can't beat 'em (well, yeah, I suppose you can, that's the idea... laugh).

trackcar

6,453 posts

232 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Self-taught here and I so wish I'd had lessons early on .. at least then i could have blamed the tutor for my lack of skill!

Cuban

5,161 posts

257 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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Funk said:
Cuban said:
Depending on your budget, a Roland V drum kit has to be the perfect way to start.

Good luck.
V-drums?! Christ, not for a beginner! Even I thought long and hard about V-Drums (and didn't go for them in the end). Get a reasonable acoustic kit - you can't beat 'em (well, yeah, I suppose you can, that's the idea... laugh).
I started on pots and pans set out as a kit, but even when I progressed to a real kit a year or more
later, I drove my family and neighbours insane, so yes, I think V drums are the perfect way to start.

Not talking about diving in and getting a TD-20K, but the HD-1 is a great little kit to find your feet. yes


evenflow

Original Poster:

8,795 posts

288 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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What would I be looking at for one of those? Presumably you plug headphones into it? Does it allow you to plug in an MP3 player and play along?

Cheers

Cuban

5,161 posts

257 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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evenflow said:
What would I be looking at for one of those? Presumably you plug headphones into it? Does it allow you to plug in an MP3 player and play along?

Cheers
They are around £400 and indeed, you use headphones so only you hear what you play and yes, you can
plug in your ipod, cd player etc and play along. smile

Full details can be found here: http://www.roland.com/products/en/HD-1/index.html

Kibosh

1,081 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th December 2007
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kiwisr said:
Kibosh said:
I'm typing this with an extremely sore shoulder from too much practise.....so warm up and warm down properly too!!
It sounds like your technique is wrong, the power should be coming from the wrist.
My wrists hurt too!! hehe