for fans of heavy music

[militantmandy]

Have we had Mastodon yet? If not why not!?

[stompboxx]

militantmandy said:

Did I already mention Desalvo? Mentalists from Glasgow, think they've spilt now. Hell of a live show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmVI9f2O2ZA

Not their best tune, but not much on the tube.

Good shout...I have the CD...didn't know they'd split, was hoping to catch them live someday, they look INSANE

[The real Apache]

der lads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRQjrP4A0s

surprised they haven't had a mensh yet

[JaymzDead]

The real Apache said:

der lads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRQjrP4A0s

surprised they haven't had a mensh yet

If we're going down that route, then these guys deserve a mention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbXciBKcfQ8

Just to prove that all black metal doesn't have to be about blast-beats all the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzTHCRmyKs

...and for a definitive example of 'heavy' this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK0tjSvA17g

[hornet]

More creepy crawly doom riff filth...

Nightstick

Warhorse

Sourvein

YOB

Eyehategod

[JaymzDead]

Sourvein own, and T-Roy is an absolutely top bloke. When we supported them, he turned up to souncheck at 1pm already out of his tree and was still drinking with us at 2am.

Even better was that this gig also featured Ramesses as headliners!

[tuscaneer]

hornet said:

Gompo said:

Good call on Nailbomb, Point Blank is the best thing Max has done since Chaos AD.

Alex Newport probably deserves a mention as well, if only so I can segue into a Fudge Tunnel video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB4PgJRC-bk&fea...

Few tracks I've been listening to of late :-

Cathedral - Death of an Anarchist
Darkthrone - Circle the Wagons

tuscaneer said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E3cfvCmj_Q

^^^^at 0.45....that is fking heavy to me!!

or perhaps..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYDYpiVTJqU

again,really heavy sound to me.a real weight to the sound and roll and groove.if it was faster it would lose the weighty impact i think

See, they do zilch for me as they sound sterile. Now, 1.43 into This is just

Edited by hornet on Friday 23 July 20:01

it is perplexing what people deem "heavy".i've just listened to that electric wizard track(from ear,i think it's tuned to c by the way).it could sound heavy but i would need to fk about with the eq on everything.it sounds far too mid range biased and there is not enough bass guitar in the mix to truly give it any weight.again,i suppose it's horses for courses but i would think to qualify as heavy in my eyes there would certainly have to be a broadening of the soundscape.

[tuscaneer]

JaymzDead said:

The real Apache said:

der lads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRQjrP4A0s

surprised they haven't had a mensh yet

If we're going down that route, then these guys deserve a mention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbXciBKcfQ8

Just to prove that all black metal doesn't have to be about blast-beats all the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzTHCRmyKs

...and for a definitive example of 'heavy' this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK0tjSvA17g

ministry were definately ahead of their time and i agree about meshuggah.fking heavy stuff!!as a musician i find them very unsettling.all those time changes really are insanely difficult to master.(i can't)a bit like dillinger escape plan,every time i listen to them my head gets mashed!

[JaymzDead]

tuscaneer said:

JaymzDead said:

The real Apache said:

der lads

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRQjrP4A0s

surprised they haven't had a mensh yet

If we're going down that route, then these guys deserve a mention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbXciBKcfQ8

Just to prove that all black metal doesn't have to be about blast-beats all the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DzTHCRmyKs

...and for a definitive example of 'heavy' this takes some beating:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oK0tjSvA17g

ministry were definately ahead of their time and i agree about meshuggah.fking heavy stuff!!as a musician i find them very unsettling.all those time changes really are insanely difficult to master.(i can't)a bit like dillinger escape plan,every time i listen to them my head gets mashed!

Definately. Chaosphere especially is a challenging listen. I have actually played it to a guy who really likes his death metal and he could only handle it in small doses! I love the dischordance of it and as you say the time changes are all over the shop. Have you heard any Candiria perchance?

[tuscaneer]

i didn't think i had until i youtubed them.i watched "blood" and remembered the video from a few years ago.don't realize how i let this pass me by.fking superb!!!just been to hmv for the new 36 crazyfists album and the new trent reznor job(how to destroy angels) and i will have to go all the way back now you bd!!!!seriously,cheers for the nod,good find

[tuscaneer]

and while we are on the topic..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H731SduB9E

Edited by tuscaneer on Monday 26th July 13:51

[tuscaneer]

candiria. blood

good stuff, bit of early deftones to the tightness and punchiness???


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAvHayrldxg&fea...

[tuscaneer]

we were supposed to play with these guys at liverpool krazy house.really good band but i'm glad it never came to pas because there was about 12 fking people in the audience!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSgdfDZq1WM

[JaymzDead]

tuscaneer said:

i didn't think i had until i youtubed them.i watched "blood" and remembered the video from a few years ago.don't realize how i let this pass me by.fking superb!!!just been to hmv for the new 36 crazyfists album and the new trent reznor job(how to destroy angels) and i will have to go all the way back now you bd!!!!seriously,cheers for the nod,good find

No bother mate, their best material is definately off the earlier albums, their peek was 300% Density IMHO. I like 'What Doesn't Kill You' but it vears a little too much towards soaring P.O.D style melodic stuff in places. Ken Schalke, their drummer is one of the best in the business IMHO. Proof being this vid where he plays the first half of the song on single kick then fixes the linkage in his pedals at the beginning of the breakdown! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHhY6v39NOc

[tuscaneer]

yeaH,cracking insightful video that.my kind of drummer.very rhythmic and rolling.like danny schuler from biohazard.played this song to our drummer years ago and said that if he learnt it he was in.he only went and got it down tom roll for tom roll!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQkwSR3Wn30&fea...

^^^at about 1.50.my guy was only about 16 but beat this st so hard.like a fking gorrila!!

[RV8]

As far as drummers go, I don't personally think there are many who come close to this guy tbh. Very very tight performance. K J Sawka:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh0aF3h455Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b98BJ36K1wo

Edited by RV8 on Monday 26th July 23:15

[Swervin_Mervin]

tuscaneer said:

it is perplexing what people deem "heavy".

It certainly is.

Not too long I bought a Dilinger Escape Plan album, and just thought WTF? I got quite into Sikth so my thinking was that something with the interesting time changes etc would be right up my street, and as a huge FNM fan I knew they'd supported Mike Patton not too long ago.

I didn't enjoy at all.

But for a Tool-lite band, Chevelle certainly have their moments. Whilst Grab Thy Hand certainly softens off in the verses it maintains a real darkness throughout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWcT9duphCY

And then there's the brilliant Comfortable Liar. What you don't get on the Youtube vid is the big "bass bomb"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk_tH7GQwo8&fea...

Oh and any excuse to post this vid by Rammstein!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytRQjrP4A0s

Edited by Swervin_Mervin on Tuesday 27th July 19:03

[RV8]

Swervin_Mervin said:

tuscaneer said:

it is perplexing what people deem "heavy".

It certainly is.

I think what is 'heavy' has changed dramatically over the years, also it's pretty subjective. You mention Chevelle, to me they are sometimes heavy rock rather than metal but most of the time they are not heavy imo (say in comparison to Bolt Thrower or Entombed) but a good band regardless.

It is interesting what people deem heavy, I suggested in an earlier post variations in a style that bands play - Carcass for example - they were dark, heavy and brutal in everything from the album cover to the lyrics but the later stuff on swan song was a massive departure from the earlier sound and definitely more radio friendly.
Then there are bands like Fear Factory and Pitchshifter, they really have a massive divide between sounding heavy and, not.

[AshBaldry]

Any Down fans!? There second album is awesome

[hornet]

tuscaneer said:

it is perplexing what people deem "heavy".i've just listened to that electric wizard track(from ear,i think it's tuned to c by the way).it could sound heavy but i would need to fk about with the eq on everything.it sounds far too mid range biased and there is not enough bass guitar in the mix to truly give it any weight.again,i suppose it's horses for courses but i would think to qualify as heavy in my eyes there would certainly have to be a broadening of the soundscape.

Horses for courses indeed. I guess if you favour a cleaner sound, you want to hear everything distinctly, whereas I just prefer the whole "feel" of doom. I just love the muddy, suffocating atmosphere of that sort of stuff. Ditto death metal and grindcore - really don't get on with This or This, but love This and This. The former are clearer, more technical and probably heavier, but there's no soul to them for me.

Anyway, thread needs more Reverend Bizarre