service carge vs. tip
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cramorra

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1,689 posts

263 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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More and more city places seem to add this voluntarely contribution to service (assuming people cannot do percent calculation)
Usually they add 12.5% which would be what I would tip if I was very happy
Do people do tip on top of the service charge (should decide to pay it or not) is something which confuses me....


Edited to add the 1 before the 2.5 - usually I would tip between 10 and 15 % (rounded to a sensible figure

Edited by cramorra on Sunday 26th September 14:14

Glocko

1,813 posts

277 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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So for a £50 meal you'd tip £1.25?
eek

calibrax

4,788 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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cramorra said:
More and more city places seem to add this voluntarely contribution to service (assuming people cannot do percent calculation)
Usually they add 2.5% which would be what I would tip if I was very happy
Do people do tip on top of the service charge (should decide to pay it or not) is something which confuses me....
Usually 12.5% surely?

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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Glocko said:
So for a £50 meal you'd tip £1.25?
eek
I never leave a tip or eat anywhere where "service charge not included". The restaurant/cafe should be paying the staff directly. New Zealand has the best system - no tips.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

241 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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At least you can choose to pay tips in restaurants if the service is good. I really don't understand this American notion of tipping for everything though!

A chap I know was telling me about his cruise holiday. They really enjoyed themselves and had already booked another cruise with the same company for next year, because they apparently got a really good package, which included credits for their first $100 of gratuities!!! WTF???

Given that this was a Yank cruise ship, it was apparently normal to tip every fker you came into contact with - the chambermaid, the wine waiter, all the barmen, the bloke who swaps the towels by the pool.... What sort of utter lunacy is that? If I've just paid out £6k for my cabin, I certainly wouldn't expect having it cleaned to be an optional bloody extra!

Silver993tt

9,064 posts

267 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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Why tip if the service is good? I'm paying for good service in the first place through the (normally) extortionate prices most restaurants/cafes regularly charge.

It's almost as though most people are surprised when the get 'good' service and feel, wow, we should leave a tip for that. Good service should be the default and if anything, an amount should be deducted from any bill where the service is deemed not to be good.

Simpo Two

92,530 posts

293 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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What he said. I don't expect a bonus for doing my job well, and it's a sight harder than carrying trays about.

I propose a Crap Service 10% deduction!

Edited by Simpo Two on Sunday 26th September 16:58

H_Kan

4,942 posts

227 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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I don't tip on top of service charges, one or the other.

Having said that, I don't tip as a matter of course, however if I feel that the staff have been attentive and the meal has gone well then I may do so.

Imo, the staffs wages are a restaurant overhead, not something for me to subsidise. Therefore it isn't something I consider par for course.

Though when abroad in places like India, I do tip more frequently, because I know that even a couple of quid is going to make somebody pretty happy and be far more appreciated.

sgrimshaw

7,584 posts

278 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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I always insist on voluntary service charges being removed.

Get this though ....

I stayed at a hotel near Southampton the other day, and the hotel bill had an optional 5% service charge automatically added - not just to Bar/Restaurant but to everything including the Room.


Simpo Two

92,530 posts

293 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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And where does the optional automatic service charge go?

a) To the hard-working staff on minimum wage

b) Into the Corporate Coffers

PeteG

4,278 posts

239 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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I'll tip if the service has been good - or if I fancy the waitress... wink

Simpo Two

92,530 posts

293 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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PeteG said:
I'll tip if the service has been good - or if I fancy the waitress... wink
I can just see you shoving a fiver into the 'chest-mounted collection box'!

RizzoTheRat

28,678 posts

220 months

Sunday 26th September 2010
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Go to Japanese restaurants, they don't do tipping.

PeteG

4,278 posts

239 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Simpo Two said:
PeteG said:
I'll tip if the service has been good - or if I fancy the waitress... wink
I can just see you shoving a fiver into the 'chest-mounted collection box'!
I think the OH would complain if I were to do that, in most cases at least...

Parsnip

3,253 posts

216 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Always cancel the optional one - no idea where is is going - same reason I never add it on the credit card machine.

If the food and service was good, I will usually leave a tip, don't really have a % in mind, just chuck down whatever feels appropriate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJwYaeolXc - people who don't tip look like this, do you want this?

Simpo Two

92,530 posts

293 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Parsnip said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enJwYaeolXc - people who don't tip look like this, do you want this?
That's an American fictional film; British factual reality is different. We don't have a tipping culture; America does. But how many times have you been served slightly disappointing food, and when they come round to ask you if everything's all right, you smile politely and tell them it's fine thankyou, because you don't want to make a fuss, and pay up at the end in full anyway. That's the British way of tipping.

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 27th September 09:45

Dupont666

22,808 posts

220 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Man you lot should try egypt!!

Cheap prices for the food... think not to bad so spend a little more.

Bill comes:

Food
Tax - 12%
Service Charge included - 12%
Tip expected.

you usually end up paying 35-40% more on the bill that you thought.

caziques

2,839 posts

196 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Glocko said:
I never leave a tip or eat anywhere where "service charge not included". The restaurant/cafe should be paying the staff directly. New Zealand has the best system - no tips.
Not only does New Zealand have no tips, but also reasonable prices for decent food in a restaurant - and the booze isn't too bad either - despite the exchange rate.

Anyone coming out for the Rugby World Cup and the fish and chips under two pounds?