Wine to lay down for 18 years.
Wine to lay down for 18 years.
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Bullett

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11,165 posts

212 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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I need some help.

I've been asked to be Godfather to my best mans first born. Christening is in July and I'd like to get him a gift that's not a silver spoon or something twee.

I understand that 2009 was a good year for Bordeaux so thinking about a case of something nice that can be properly stored until he's 18 (I belive this is available as a service from various places). I know he's going to want to be drinking cider in the park at 18 but at least his dad and I will enjoy it...

Any recommendations? Prepared to spend up to about £200.

uncinqsix

3,239 posts

238 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Get a vintage port: much more reliable over that kind of timeframe. 2007 is the most recent declared vintage and by all accounts was an absolute cracker.

Cactussed

5,363 posts

241 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Sadly, £200 isnt' going to buy you a lot in terms of 2009 vintage as prices are high due to it being a good year. An example might be below:

2009 Latour Martillac, Pessac-Leognan, £209.00 per case
The best wine I have ever tasted from this estate, the oak seems to have been subdued, or maybe it is just that the fruit level is kicked up so high that the oak is not noticeable. That is certainly a characteristic of 2009. Dense purple in color, with hints of graphite, cigar box, creme de cassis, and subtle barbecue smoke, the wine is loaded, rich, opulent, medium to full-bodied, and a beautiful model of a wine that makes a few concessions to the modern style of Bordeaux but retains its Graves personality totally intact. It should drink well for 20-25 years. (Tasted two times.)
Score 90-92* Robert Parker, Wine Advocate (188)

£350 will get you into decent territory,. You may be better off purchasing a bottle or two of first or second growth. Failing that, Port will keep (as will almost all fortified wines).

Bebs

3,033 posts

309 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Cactussed said:
Sadly, £200 isnt' going to buy you a lot in terms of 2009 vintage as prices are high due to it being a good year. An example might be below:

2009 Latour Martillac, Pessac-Leognan, £209.00 per case
The best wine I have ever tasted from this estate, the oak seems to have been subdued, or maybe it is just that the fruit level is kicked up so high that the oak is not noticeable. That is certainly a characteristic of 2009. Dense purple in color, with hints of graphite, cigar box, creme de cassis, and subtle barbecue smoke, the wine is loaded, rich, opulent, medium to full-bodied, and a beautiful model of a wine that makes a few concessions to the modern style of Bordeaux but retains its Graves personality totally intact. It should drink well for 20-25 years. (Tasted two times.)
Score 90-92* Robert Parker, Wine Advocate (188)

£350 will get you into decent territory,. You may be better off purchasing a bottle or two of first or second growth. Failing that, Port will keep (as will almost all fortified wines).
Ch Lafite just came out at £600 btl!

Cactussed

5,363 posts

241 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Fk me! So £7k a case, in bond. Hmmmmm

Bullett

Original Poster:

11,165 posts

212 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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Thanks, where would I get some from and who can store it once I've got it?

My first idea was port but I really wanted it to be 2009.

Cheese Mechanic

3,157 posts

197 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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I suppose it depends iff your buying for investment , or celebratory reasons.

There are several brands of whiskies with specific year issue dates, ie: its on the bottle.

To me though, perhaps the best option would be a Brandy, a really nice brandy. Delamain , Paul Beau , François Voyer , that kind of stuff. Like whisky no problems keeping it, dark cupboard, out the way. no problems.

Bullett

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11,165 posts

212 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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If I went to £400 then I'm into decent stuff?

A case is 12 bottles right?

Brandy is a good call, I'm in Cognac this week on Holiday (with Godchild & Co) so thats an intersting idea.

V8mate

45,899 posts

217 months

Friday 18th June 2010
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How many 18 year olds like wine though?

working class

8,988 posts

215 months

Saturday 19th June 2010
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V8mate said:
How many 18 year olds like wine though?
Exactly, you would be better off putting the £400 into a saving acc for 18 years then giving him that so he can blow it on whatever he likes!

Henry Hawthorne

6,520 posts

244 months

Saturday 19th June 2010
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V8mate said:
How many 18 year olds like wine though?
I think it's meant to be n investment rather than drunk, until he's can appreciate/sell it.

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

220 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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just out of interest... what does graphite taste like? I've never tasted any graphite in any wine.

calibrax

4,788 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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DangerousMike said:
just out of interest... what does graphite taste like? I've never tasted any graphite in any wine.
It's "cigar box" that worries me. What does a cigar box taste like?

DangerousMike

11,327 posts

220 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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oaky?

"hints of elizabethan galleon"

calibrax

4,788 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th June 2010
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He could have saved time and said it tastes like chewing the end of a 2B pencil... graphite and wood all in one smile

Bullett

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11,165 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Decision made as I was running out of time. Got a case of this.

12 x 2009 Ch. Giscours, Margaux @ £36.50 - ouch...

6 for the Godson and 6 for me/my boy.

Cactussed

5,363 posts

241 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Good choice and good price as well.

Parker's notes below (93/100)
This is the finest Giscours I have tasted in my professional career. Succulent and sexy with an inky/purple color, it offers sweet aromas of subtle barbecue smoke, graphite, blackberries, blueberries, and spring flowers. The tannins are remarkably sweet, substantial, and well-integrated, and the wine is full-bodied as well as voluptuously textured. It is a head-turning, exuberant, flashy effort that should drink well for 20-25 years. Bravo! (Tasted three times.)