which turkey for christmas?
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loltolhurst

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Monday 30th November 2009
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right for the first time my parents are coming to me for christmas. I dont have a lot of money but want it to be nice and prefer "real" food to plastic crap.

Do I get one from a supermarket, from a farm, online, butcher etc
Do I get a whole bird or a crown?
Do I get one thats preprepared like an mns turkey crown with stuffing?

A crown makes sense as theres just 3 of us although want plenty for the following few days. However, not sure it feels as special as pulling out a whole bird. Pre done with stuffing and bacon a la mns also makes sense but I want the sense I'm cooking it from scratch with great ingrediants rather than just assembling something pre made in a factory.

So any views - also do I need to pre order or is it best to buy one on what it looks like in the shop - if so when to buy it?

or shall i just do beans on toast smile


staceyb

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Monday 30th November 2009
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Local farm or butcher.

loltolhurst

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staceyb said:
Local farm or butcher.
will that be hideously expensive? pre order?

Don

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312 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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Why not roast something else?

I know Turkey is popular but all too often the breast meat ends up dry and the leg meat loaded with salmonella!

For three of you a nice Gressingham Duck would provide plenty of rich, delicious meat...AND you get to make the most wonderful giblet gravy!

Or a bit of fun might be Poussin. (Baby Chicken). One each and no leftovers.

You can make stuffing balls to go with them and sausages wrapped in bacon make the whole thing Christmassy...

GregE240

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Monday 30th November 2009
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Ordered from Waitrose this year.

We have had a 3 bird roast from Seldom Seen Farm (one of Rick Steins food heroes) and also a goose from there as well for recent xmas dinners. This year we're going back to turkey, a bit old skool if you will.

Don

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loltolhurst said:
staceyb said:
Local farm or butcher.
will that be hideously expensive? pre order?
Pre-order. You need to be SURE you are getting what you want.

Yes it will be expensive in comparison to buying something frozen from Tesco. But it will be far tastier.

rah1888

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Monday 30th November 2009
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Don said:
Why not roast something else?
yes

Will be trying a Goose this year!

Marf

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269 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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We haven't done Turkey for years.

We generally do Chicken and Beef.

louiebaby

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Monday 30th November 2009
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Marf said:
We haven't done Turkey for years.

We generally do Chicken and Beef.
Indeed, beef or lamb for us. (It just tastes better.)

GregE240

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rah1888 said:
Don said:
Why not roast something else?
yes

Will be trying a Goose this year!
DEFINITELY invest in something to raise it our of the roasting pan, the amount of fat that comes out of one is shocking...

That said, decant it off and use to make the best roast spuds ever!

Marf

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Monday 30th November 2009
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GregE240 said:
rah1888 said:
Don said:
Why not roast something else?
yes

Will be trying a Goose this year!
DEFINITELY invest in something to raise it our of the roasting pan, the amount of fat that comes out of one is shocking...

That said, decant it off and use to make the best roast spuds ever!
We had goose at my sisters last year on Xmas day, it was "ok". Wasnt really that impressed with it, however the months of delicious roasties cooked in its fat made up for that. yum

Don

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Monday 30th November 2009
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rah1888 said:
Don said:
Why not roast something else?
yes

Will be trying a Goose this year!
Done Goose on a number of occasions. Marvellous festive dinner - and you'll have Goose fat for the rest of the year off just one! Don't give it to people who get Gout, though. Something in it sets them off terribly. My Bro-in-law got quite ill.

But for the rest of us. Mmmmmm.

A Goose would comfortably feed eight or ten people though...so may be too much for the OP.

Don

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Monday 30th November 2009
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GregE240 said:
rah1888 said:
Don said:
Why not roast something else?
yes

Will be trying a Goose this year!
DEFINITELY invest in something to raise it our of the roasting pan, the amount of fat that comes out of one is shocking...

That said, decant it off and use to make the best roast spuds ever!
yes A rack is a MUST with Goose.

Papoo

3,964 posts

226 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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I'm not a massive turkey lover, but they can be pretty tasty if done well..

I'd get a farm raised one for sure. Worth the extra, as it's the difference between decent and arse. I would brine it for a day or two, it really helps with moisture retention. I'd also lay streaky bacon between the breast and the skin. It will baste the breast (keeping it moist), and add flavour, which are the two main concerns with turkey.

sherman

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243 months

Monday 30th November 2009
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Last year we had a Lidl frozen turkey in november and ordered a free range norfolk black from a local farm shop for christmas ansame led the lidl frozen turkey came out with more juicy breast meat. Both were much the same size cooked in the same way and for much the same length of time. So this year a Lidl frozen turkey shall be getting used for Christmas dinner.

Papoo

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Monday 30th November 2009
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sherman said:
Last year we had a Lidl frozen turkey in november and ordered a free range norfolk black from a local farm shop for christmas ansame led the lidl frozen turkey came out with more juicy breast meat. Both were much the same size cooked in the same way and for much the same length of time. So this year a Lidl frozen turkey shall be getting used for Christmas dinner.
It may well have had a little brine enhancement, too. People get too hung up on turkey moisture. It is important, but less so than flavour. Flavour is the reason I go free-range.

The way I look at it, is that you can do various things to retain moisture, and they do work, but if the turkey meat has no inherent flavour, your stuck without flavour; moist or otherwise.

sherman

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Monday 30th November 2009
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Did I forget to say it tasted better as well.

loltolhurst

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Monday 30th November 2009
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anyone buy the crowns or are they cack? the ones on pages 6-7 here look nice or is it too predone?

http://www.marksandspencer.com/Christmas-Food-to-O...


staceyb

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Monday 30th November 2009
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Papoo said:
I'm not a massive turkey lover, but they can be pretty tasty if done well..

I'd get a farm raised one for sure. Worth the extra, as it's the difference between decent and arse. I would brine it for a day or two, it really helps with moisture retention. I'd also lay streaky bacon between the breast and the skin. It will baste the breast (keeping it moist), and add flavour, which are the two main concerns with turkey.
cook it upside down too so all the juices from the bones that normally get lost into the pan drain into the breasts.

Papoo

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Monday 30th November 2009
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sherman said:
Did I forget to say it tasted better as well.
Yes.

Odd then, would seem you got had by the free-range farmers. Frozen store birds will never come close in terms of flavour. Perhaps the actual taste of turkey isn't what you were going for.