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Wadeski

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8,671 posts

228 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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Everyone has them, and i had one tonight.

A pot-roasted piece of beef, with roast potatoes. how can that go wrong?

missed the shops, so grabbed a kilo of silverside from Tesco.

rubbed it in pepper and some ground spices, then seared it off in a frying pan.

put it in a pot with chopped onions, garlic, carrots, mushrooms, a bay leaf, parsley and half a bottle of red wine.

an hour and a half at 150 degrees later, the sauce tasted GREAT but the meat was like boot leather.

Bugger. At least i didn't have guests over!

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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How odd! Tough beef when pot roasting is usually due to too hot too fast. 150 is slightly hotter than I do it - 130-140 for 40mins per lb (not kilo) plus 20mins - but you must have had not such a great bit of beef sadly...it doesn't sound like your plan was bad!

dickymint

27,230 posts

273 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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Any meat will be tender if cooked long enough.

Don

28,378 posts

299 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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dickymint said:
Any meat will be tender if cooked long enough.
Long enough - and cool enough so you don't burn it whilst it's in there for an extended period...

Sorry - just being pedantic, there...

dickymint

27,230 posts

273 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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Don said:
dickymint said:
Any meat will be tender if cooked long enough.
Long enough - and cool enough so you don't burn it whilst it's in there for an extended period...

Sorry - just being pedantic, there...
No worries, quite an important point thumbup

Gary Marshall

38 posts

223 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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did you have the lid on as well?

also check the oven temp, a cheap thermometer is well worth the money as ovens are notoriously 'out' on temp, you may have been cooking it at 125 degrees!

as others have said you prob need a good 2 hours at a genuine 150 degrees for that cut.

Wadeski

Original Poster:

8,671 posts

228 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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yeah lid was on. le creuset type thing.

my thoughts were either:

too much liquid (so it was boiling rather than roasting?)

temp is screwed on the oven (which is quite likely, i usually just cook by sight in it and have never baked in this oven). because its in a crappy rented flat biggrin

littlegreenfairy

10,134 posts

236 months

Monday 19th November 2007
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Don't worry, I did it last night for dinner and managed to forget about it and the stupid meat fell apart when I tried to carve it. So we all got chunks rather than slices frown

Gary Marshall

38 posts

223 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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amount of liquid not likely to be a problem. sounds like temp and time were the issue. You could also cut it into decent sized chunks, flour and fry before adding to the pot, will cook quicker and thicken the sauce.

Rude Girl

6,937 posts

274 months

Tuesday 20th November 2007
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I thought this was going to be a thread to confess our culinary disasters. I am now prepared to admit to a strange experimental pudding that will forever be known as 'cheese jelly' by us and the GregE240s. We laughed until we cried. hehe

Semi hemi

1,801 posts

213 months

Thursday 22nd November 2007
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Try it on the stove top

Brown meat and veg (topside/silverside ok Brisket has more flavour but extend cooking time)
sit meat on top of veg add stock all in a close lidded pan (use foil to ensure tight seal)

Put on a low heat,barely simmering for about hour and half to two hours dep on weight

a pressure cooker can give the same result even quicker if you like the added time bomb feature.....

UKbob

16,277 posts

280 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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I quite like cheap braising steak, its nice and fatty and cheap as chips, I usually stew mine for a good 3-5 hours. Dont stir it around too much and it wont fall apart. I couldnt imagine cooking meat in a pot for less than that period, however big or small. The longer your onions/veg/wine/garlic and seasonings stew, the more delicious the gravy biggrin

Cotty

41,360 posts

299 months

Friday 14th March 2008
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Depending how you do it 180°C and 4 hours works for me
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