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Why is it so bloody difficult to order a simple cup of coffee nowadays? We were having lunch near Dundee a few days ago and after eating decided to end with a nice cup of coffee. My wife asked for a white coffee, I asked for a white decaffinated coffee.
"Lattes?"
"No, a white coffee, and a white decaffinated coffee"
"We don't do white coffee - it's a latte"
"What's a black coffee with milk?"
"An Americano with milk"
"That will do"
There's also apparently something called a flat white. Which is also apparently a black coffee with milk...
And milk is cows milk!
"Lattes?"
"No, a white coffee, and a white decaffinated coffee"
"We don't do white coffee - it's a latte"
"What's a black coffee with milk?"
"An Americano with milk"
"That will do"
There's also apparently something called a flat white. Which is also apparently a black coffee with milk...
And milk is cows milk!
daqinggregg said:
Solution, visit countries that can actually make coffee, Italy, France, or the big surprise to me, Vietnam; I’m sure there are many others.
Chains, they’re just pretending.
There are loads of independent coffee shops in the UK that do excellent coffee. I don't know of any coffee shops that don't do a white coffee, universally know as a white Americano.Chains, they’re just pretending.
Lol there is a classic Curb Your Enthusiasm sketch where Larry David goes off on the deep end about all the BS names for coffee and milk.
I asked a barista and she explained them to me.
The coffee base is the same, an expresso shot. What is different is how the milk is treated. More or less steam etc. Different proportions of coffee and milk is another differentiator.
If you want a black watered down expresso shot with milk, you want a White Americano. This is probably what you mean by a ‘white coffee’.
A latte is an expresso shot with steamed milk, which changes the texture. It is the milkiest out of the coffee’s you listed.
A flat white is a variant with more expresso vs steamed milk compared to a latte.
They also have varying amounts of frothy milk foam.
If you try them all, you will find a preference.
For milky coffee, I always go for a Macchiato, which is expresso with a thin layer of foamed milk.
This choice is a good thing. Wouldn’t want to go back to the days before chains where it was really hard to get a decent coffee anywhere. Even a Starbucks coffee (created in a high pressure expresso machine) is preferable to instant or something out of a bean to cup machine.
I asked a barista and she explained them to me.
The coffee base is the same, an expresso shot. What is different is how the milk is treated. More or less steam etc. Different proportions of coffee and milk is another differentiator.
If you want a black watered down expresso shot with milk, you want a White Americano. This is probably what you mean by a ‘white coffee’.
A latte is an expresso shot with steamed milk, which changes the texture. It is the milkiest out of the coffee’s you listed.
A flat white is a variant with more expresso vs steamed milk compared to a latte.
They also have varying amounts of frothy milk foam.
If you try them all, you will find a preference.
For milky coffee, I always go for a Macchiato, which is expresso with a thin layer of foamed milk.
This choice is a good thing. Wouldn’t want to go back to the days before chains where it was really hard to get a decent coffee anywhere. Even a Starbucks coffee (created in a high pressure expresso machine) is preferable to instant or something out of a bean to cup machine.
Edited by wyson on Tuesday 31st December 11:55
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