How to cook "red fish".

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Louis Balfour

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Friday 27th September 2024
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Waitrose fish counter was limited today. The only chunky fresh white fish they had was "red fish". It's a white fish with a red mottled skin.

Anyone know what it is or how best to cook it?

TIA

Mobile Chicane

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222 months

Friday 27th September 2024
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Whole, or filleted?

I presume filleted. It's a bony old fker of the snapper family.

Pan fry in lots of butter, a minute each side. Maybe two, depending on how thick these are.

You DO NOT want to overcook it.

Louis Balfour

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Saturday 28th September 2024
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Mobile Chicane said:
Whole, or filleted?

I presume filleted. It's a bony old fker of the snapper family.

Pan fry in lots of butter, a minute each side. Maybe two, depending on how thick these are.

You DO NOT want to overcook it.
Yep fillets.

I am doubting my choice now, because one of my family is fish agnostic. But the hake on offer, which is what I wanted, was scrappy.



dontlookdown

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103 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Probably red snapper. Something Caribbean would be appropriate.

Or pan fry it in lime, chilli and ginger. What I often do on hols with unidentified random fish bought from local market;)

Louis Balfour

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dontlookdown said:
Probably red snapper. Something Caribbean would be appropriate.

Or pan fry it in lime, chilli and ginger. What I often do on hols with unidentified random fish bought from local market;)
I think pan frying is on my mind.

If it's fragile maybe I should try to do most of the cooking skin side down?

dontlookdown

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Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
dontlookdown said:
Probably red snapper. Something Caribbean would be appropriate.

Or pan fry it in lime, chilli and ginger. What I often do on hols with unidentified random fish bought from local market;)
I think pan frying is on my mind.

If it's fragile maybe I should try to do most of the cooking skin side down?
Yes. Seasoned flour on the skin, cook it skin side down. Keep it moving gently so it doesn't stick.

If it's really fragile, don't turn it at all, but put a lid/plate over the pan and kinda steam it for a minute at the end on a lower heat if it needs it. It may not, depending on how thick the fillets are

Don't overcook, as noted above;)

Louis Balfour

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What happens if it’s overcooked?

Acorn1

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Saturday 28th September 2024
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Important to score the skin, cook skin side down then flip for 30s


mikeiow

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Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
What happens if it’s overcooked?
It’ll be dry & chewy

dontlookdown

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Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
What happens if it’s overcooked?
It will be dry and a bit chewy.

You want the flesh to be still slightly translucent and 'glassy' looking. It basically looks a bit underdone when it is ready.

The secret to perfectly cooked fish, IME, is to have the courage of your convictions and not to give it another minute 'just to be sure'.

If the fillets are thin it can take only a couple of minutes to cook them, so have everything else ready to go.

Louis Balfour

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dontlookdown said:
Louis Balfour said:
What happens if it’s overcooked?
It will be dry and a bit chewy.

You want the flesh to be still slightly translucent and 'glassy' looking. It basically looks a bit underdone when it is ready.

The secret to perfectly cooked fish, IME, is to have the courage of your convictions and not to give it another minute 'just to be sure'.

If the fillets are thin it can take only a couple of minutes to cook them, so have everything else ready to go.
I've a bit of a challenge in that the fillets are of different thicknesses too!

dickymint

26,250 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
dontlookdown said:
Louis Balfour said:
What happens if it’s overcooked?
It will be dry and a bit chewy.

You want the flesh to be still slightly translucent and 'glassy' looking. It basically looks a bit underdone when it is ready.

The secret to perfectly cooked fish, IME, is to have the courage of your convictions and not to give it another minute 'just to be sure'.

If the fillets are thin it can take only a couple of minutes to cook them, so have everything else ready to go.
I've a bit of a challenge in that the fillets are of different thicknesses too!
You take the smaller one out of the pan first wink

Silvanus

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33 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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dontlookdown said:
Probably red snapper. Something Caribbean would be appropriate.

Or pan fry it in lime, chilli and ginger. What I often do on hols with unidentified random fish bought from local market;)
The Redfish in Waitrose is a type of Rockfish and far inferior to snapper. I found it to be rather tasteless compared to bass, bream or snapper, but then again it's much cheaper. I cooked the last fillets with ginger, garlic, chilli and spring onions. Not something I will buy again.

Venisonpie

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92 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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dontlookdown said:
Yes. Seasoned flour on the skin, cook it skin side down. Keep it moving gently so it doesn't stick.

If it's really fragile, don't turn it at all, but put a lid/plate over the pan and kinda steam it for a minute at the end on a lower heat if it needs it. It may not, depending on how thick the fillets are

Don't overcook, as noted above;)
Personally I wouldn't use flour, just season well and as you say let most of the cooking take place skin side down. I also don't keep it moving, in a non stick pan it shouldn't be required if you're using olive oil below smoking temp. Moving it can cause it to break up - I do however push down when it enters the pan to stop the fillets curling up.

Louis Balfour

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Saturday 28th September 2024
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Thanks for the input guys. I had a crisis of confidence and, when the local farmer's market had a fish stall with chunky hake I bought three uniform fillets.

So, what shall I do with the red fish?

Fishy pasta sauce? Fish cakes?

PhilAsia

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85 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
Thanks for the input guys. I had a crisis of confidence and, when the local farmer's market had a fish stall with chunky hake I bought three uniform fillets.

So, what shall I do with the red fish?

Fishy pasta sauce? Fish cakes?
South Indian fish curry...

dickymint

26,250 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
Thanks for the input guys. I had a crisis of confidence and, when the local farmer's market had a fish stall with chunky hake I bought three uniform fillets.

So, what shall I do with the red fish?

Fishy pasta sauce? Fish cakes?
If in doubt I usually season (spiced or herbs if you like) in a foil parcel with a good knob of butter and a glug of white wine. Wrap and cook in a pre-heated oven at 150c for about 15 minutes.

Chris Stott

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207 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
Waitrose fish counter was limited today. The only chunky fresh white fish they had was "red fish". It's a white fish with a red mottled skin.

Anyone know what it is or how best to cook it?

TIA
Possibly Rosado… very common down here in the south of Spain. I think it’s some sort of eel.

Loads of recipes for it on Google.

dontlookdown

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103 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Louis Balfour said:
Thanks for the input guys. I had a crisis of confidence and, when the local farmer's market had a fish stall with chunky hake I bought three uniform fillets.

So, what shall I do with the red fish?

Fishy pasta sauce? Fish cakes?
Nooo!

Oh well. Another vote for fish curry from me.

dickymint

26,250 posts

268 months

Saturday 28th September 2024
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Chris Stott said:
Louis Balfour said:
Waitrose fish counter was limited today. The only chunky fresh white fish they had was "red fish". It's a white fish with a red mottled skin.

Anyone know what it is or how best to cook it?

TIA
Possibly Rosado… very common down here in the south of Spain. I think it’s some sort of eel.

Loads of recipes for it on Google.
Almost certainly Rockfish as their website suggests 'Sebastes'