Dried herbs

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craigthecoupe

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773 posts

214 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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During summer I grow most of the herbs i cook with, but through winter I switch to dried herbs. I've only every used supermarket stuff, and none of it seems to taste of much.
I'm aware they wont taste as good as fresh herbs, but are dried herbs similar to tea in so much as the premium stuff is delicious and strong, and the pg tips is the leftovers?
Does anybody have recommendations, or is it all really much of a muchness?

Craig

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1,992 posts

79 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Schwartz herbs are the best in my opinion.

Sadly Sainsbury's no longer sell them, only their own label stuff that has no flavour

Bonefish Blues

30,125 posts

233 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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I buy bigger bags and refill the little pots - tend to be fresher & better, and way cheaper.

Oddly, (or maybe not, given their throughput) these guys' limited range of stuff is good, and cheap. Little pots for sale, too.
https://flyingtiger.com/en-gb/pages/search-results...

I do range further afield, mind - my curry leaves have just arrived from Sri Lanka - a small pillow of them for cheap. Took about 2 months to arrive, but was worth a punt smile

nebpor

3,753 posts

245 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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I buy things like dried Greek oregano and sweet smoked paprika from Amazon. Tastes a million times nicer than the supermarket stuff

What specific herbs are you after?

craigthecoupe

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773 posts

214 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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everyday stuff really. Our rosemary is year round, so no need for that, same for bay.
basil, parsley, oregano, thyme. Same for everyday spices, not looking for anything beyond daily use, just find most of what i get is quite bland, just wondered if there was much difference in flavour.

nebpor

3,753 posts

245 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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I can vouch that this Greek Thyme and oregano is amazing




Edited by nebpor on Saturday 2nd September 10:48

MrHappy

502 posts

92 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Costco sell big pots of Mixed herbs and Italian herbs. I mostly buy Natco spices in the bigger bags from Sainbury’s in the ‘foreign’ aisle.

craigjm

18,640 posts

210 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Aside from the quality of the brand it all depends on what you are cooking as to whether dried herbs work and also how you are cooking.

Parsley, tarragon and chives don’t work at all when dried full stop so if you’re using those stick with the fresh. If you’re making something raw like a salad then herbs should always be fresh.

Beyond that dried herbs are useful when a good brand but you need to think about when you add them. You generally put fresh herbs in much later into a recipe than you would dried ones.

jet_noise

5,821 posts

192 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Have you tried freezing what you grow?
I've not but it is possible IIRC. Not as good as fresh but perhaps better than dried.

nebpor

3,753 posts

245 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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craigjm said:
Aside from the quality of the brand it all depends on what you are cooking as to whether dried herbs work and also how you are cooking.

Parsley, tarragon and chives don’t work at all when dried full stop so if you’re using those stick with the fresh. If you’re making something raw like a salad then herbs should always be fresh.

Beyond that dried herbs are useful when a good brand but you need to think about when you add them. You generally put fresh herbs in much later into a recipe than you would dried ones.
Also depends on the type of salad you are trying to make IMO - a proper greek salad uses dried oregano ... as far as I can make out the greeks only use it dry! Same for lots of middle eastern / north african style salads

Great point on the ones that just don't work dried at all!

dontlookdown

2,016 posts

103 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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craigjm said:
Aside from the quality of the brand it all depends on what you are cooking as to whether dried herbs work and also how you are cooking.

Parsley, tarragon and chives don’t work at all when dried full stop so if you’re using those stick with the fresh. If you’re making something raw like a salad then herbs should always be fresh.

Beyond that dried herbs are useful when a good brand but you need to think about when you add them. You generally put fresh herbs in much later into a recipe than you would dried ones.
Mint is another one that is not great dried imo, although there are some recipes that call specifically for dried mint. It all depends on what result you are trying to achieve.

Freshness is more impt than brand in my experience. Even dried herbs go stale after a couple of months so don't buy loads at once and replace them when they lose flavour rather than when the jar runs out;)

craigjm

18,640 posts

210 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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dontlookdown said:
Mint is another one that is not great dried imo, although there are some recipes that call specifically for dried mint. It all depends on what result you are trying to achieve.

Freshness is more impt than brand in my experience. Even dried herbs go stale after a couple of months so don't buy loads at once and replace them when they lose flavour rather than when the jar runs out;)
Agree with that. Same with spices. People go to Costco and places and buy kilo bags of the stuff and it’s all useless after being open a couple of months. Far better off buying little and often.

craigthecoupe

Original Poster:

773 posts

214 months

Saturday 2nd September 2023
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Yes, agree with all of the above, corriander is another waste of time dried herb, i suppose woody herbs dry better than softer/wetter herbs? seems like a decent rule of thumb?

I'm an average cook, and agree again that i tend to think of dried herbs (broadly speaking) are used for stewing or slow cooking, where as fresh are punchier and brighter, and are often better raw, or lightly cooked through to retain taste and aroma.

I've never tried freezing, but have seen its possible. to be honest, we've little freezer space as we keep try to freeze what comes out of the allotment to help us over winter. I also know i'm too lazy with the faff.

I suppose i could try hanging some up when we get a glut and see how they compare to bought.

theplayingmantis

4,603 posts

92 months

Sunday 3rd September 2023
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imo french tarragon works fine dried, if you simply want it to cut a rich white sauce for example, might need a wee bit more than fresh mind.

craigjm

18,640 posts

210 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
imo french tarragon works fine dried, if you simply want it to cut a rich white sauce for example, might need a wee bit more than fresh mind.
More? You generally use about 65% less when using any dried herbs over the fresh variety

Tickle

5,350 posts

214 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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craigthecoupe said:
During summer I grow most of the herbs i cook with, but through winter I switch to dried herbs. I've only every used supermarket stuff, and none of it seems to taste of much.
I'm aware they wont taste as good as fresh herbs, but are dried herbs similar to tea in so much as the premium stuff is delicious and strong, and the pg tips is the leftovers?
Does anybody have recommendations, or is it all really much of a muchness?

Craig
Dry your own, especially if you grow it through summer.

We use lots of oregano, I keep cutting it back and drying it bound upside down in a bag in larder cupboard.

theplayingmantis

4,603 posts

92 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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craigjm said:
More? You generally use about 65% less when using any dried herbs over the fresh variety
yes more, as you said above it doesnt have much oomph in it.

boxst

3,805 posts

155 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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Tickle said:
Dry your own, especially if you grow it through summer.

We use lots of oregano, I keep cutting it back and drying it bound upside down in a bag in larder cupboard.
This if you can. We bought a dehydrator and have used it with herbs from the garden (rosemary, thyme, oregano etc..), mushrooms from the forest and are currently doing chicken that I will share with the dog as snacks smile

craigthecoupe

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773 posts

214 months

Monday 4th September 2023
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I'll look into a dehydrator, though worktop space is very limited. Thanks all.

Jambo85

3,422 posts

98 months

Sunday 10th September 2023
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theplayingmantis said:
craigjm said:
More? You generally use about 65% less when using any dried herbs over the fresh variety
yes more, as you said above it doesnt have much oomph in it.
Depends how you’re measuring it of course, weight or volume!?

Making herb vinegar can be a great way to preserve them - tarragon works particularly well.