Trying to ascertain wine value
Discussion
Hi,
I was given a case of wine some time ago, my grandparents had bought it whilst in france in the 90's.
They told me at the time that they had no idea if it was of any value, so I haven't got my hopes up.
That said, I've looked after this case for a while now, turning it frequently and making sure its at the right temperature. I've never managed to find the same wine online to get a valuation (I think the Pauillac bit differentiates it from the ones I can find). I doubt I'd enjoy the taste if I cracked a bottle open so my only option really is to sell.
Could anybody advise if this is any good or should I stop caring so much and use it for cooking or something?
Cheers, DD.
I was given a case of wine some time ago, my grandparents had bought it whilst in france in the 90's.
They told me at the time that they had no idea if it was of any value, so I haven't got my hopes up.
That said, I've looked after this case for a while now, turning it frequently and making sure its at the right temperature. I've never managed to find the same wine online to get a valuation (I think the Pauillac bit differentiates it from the ones I can find). I doubt I'd enjoy the taste if I cracked a bottle open so my only option really is to sell.
Could anybody advise if this is any good or should I stop caring so much and use it for cooking or something?
Cheers, DD.
100% depends on what it actually is, and I can't tell from the picture posted. Phillipe de Rothschild have three Pauillac estates - if it's a Chateau Mouton then it could be properly expensive, a few hundred quid per bottle. If it's a d’Armailhac or a Clerc Milon then you're looking at closer to £50. If it's one of their branded wines, such as Mouton Cadet, then not really worth selling and you'd best drink it, assuming it's still drinkable.
However the fact that it's not been stored in a proper warehouse counts against it a little. If it's the good stuff, then to achieve the best price people will want to see evidence that it's been stored properly in a temperature, light, and humidity controlled environment. That might be a challenge if it's been kept at home.
However the fact that it's not been stored in a proper warehouse counts against it a little. If it's the good stuff, then to achieve the best price people will want to see evidence that it's been stored properly in a temperature, light, and humidity controlled environment. That might be a challenge if it's been kept at home.
Thanks Deckster, I must admit I hadn't considered hundreds of pounds for the case let alone for the bottles, or I might've put them in a storage facility earlier!
Details from the case read:
BORDEAUX
Baron Phillipe De Rothschild
NEGOCIANTS A PAUILLAC - GIRONDE - FRANCE
1994
I'm assuming I won't be able to find out more without opening the case and having a look at a bottle - something I'm not keen to do without professional supervision.
Details from the case read:
BORDEAUX
Baron Phillipe De Rothschild
NEGOCIANTS A PAUILLAC - GIRONDE - FRANCE
1994
I'm assuming I won't be able to find out more without opening the case and having a look at a bottle - something I'm not keen to do without professional supervision.
Edited by Discendo Discimus on Friday 18th August 15:24
djc206 said:
Open the case. Use Vivino to scan the label and it’ll give you an idea of what exactly you have.
Ah ok, am I being daft worrying about opening the case?I wondered if the bottles were worth more with the case - a bit like other collectables (I really know nothing about wine)!
I'll have a look tonight and will update the thread.
"NEGOCIANTS A PAUILLAC"
suggests its a blended wine and may not be worth any real value but should be half decent enough to drink if its not spoiled. Can you post a clear pic of a label?
Edit: you get the impression we want a pic of the label
suggests its a blended wine and may not be worth any real value but should be half decent enough to drink if its not spoiled. Can you post a clear pic of a label?
Edit: you get the impression we want a pic of the label
Edited by 21TonyK on Friday 18th August 15:34
Discendo Discimus said:
Just to clarify - If I open the case to read a label, I'm not seriously devaluing the package as a whole?
Theoretically, some buyers may pay more for an unopened case.But given that as you don't currently know what's inside, it's broadly speaking worthless right now so until you open it you simply have no idea. You might consider it to be Schrodinger's case of wine, in that it's both incredibly expensive and very cheap at the same time, and you won't know which until you open it.
Unless of course there are any further markings on the box which might give us more of a clue as to what it actually is.
Discendo Discimus said:
That said, I've looked after this case for a while now, turning it frequently and making sure its at the right temperature.
Right temperature makes sense - very important as it affects the wine - ideally no peak above 25C and preferably kept at about 12C (cellar temperature)but... turning the wine?! Unless you are planning to disgorge champagne sediment (when you riddle / turn the bottle regularly) then wine doesn't need turning - preferably stored with the wine in contact with the cork, so lying down horizontally is fine...
intrigued as to what you will find - the case will add no value for 99.9% of wines - in fact many sellers get rid of the cases when retailing as difficult to post - they are useful though if held in bond, or if you have your own wine cellar but not enough bottle storage in there - but I suspect it will make no difference in cost in your case...
cliffords said:
I would drink it , give it to friends as gifts Christmas etc . It's probably nicer wine than you would buy in Waitrose.Nice if you could give it by the bottle to family members.
Crack open a bottle first to see if its drinkable first.You dont want to gift out 5 bottles of 1994 bordeaux vinegar.
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