Powdered beer anyone?

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DodgyGeezer

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42,529 posts

200 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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If it tastes OK this really could save a LOT in terms of emissions...

https://newatlas.com/lifestyle/powdered-beer/

Bannock

6,749 posts

40 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Hmm. Given a lot of breweries were originally sited in places with suitable water supplies for brewing, like Burton-on-Trent, then I'm not sure using heavily treated water from taps in places where quality is poor is going to produce an authentic, good quality flavoured beer.

But I'd be willing to give it a shot.

Al Gorithum

4,313 posts

218 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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I'd give it a go. Must admit though that every (IIRC) German beer I've tried has been disappointing. No excuse for that really when Belgium is next door beer

Turtle Shed

1,835 posts

36 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Reminds me of the powdered milkshake scene in The Founder (possibly my favourite film of all time, certainly top five):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5uadToINEY

C n C

3,683 posts

231 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Bannock said:
Hmm. Given a lot of breweries were originally sited in places with suitable water supplies for brewing, like Burton-on-Trent, then I'm not sure using heavily treated water from taps in places where quality is poor is going to produce an authentic, good quality flavoured beer.

But I'd be willing to give it a shot.
Al Gorithum said:
I'd give it a go. Must admit though that every (IIRC) German beer I've tried has been disappointing. No excuse for that really when Belgium is next door beer
On first glance I thought I'd also give it a go, but then realised its a 0% alcohol beer, so on that basis, I'll be giving it a miss!

Bannock

6,749 posts

40 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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C n C said:
Bannock said:
Hmm. Given a lot of breweries were originally sited in places with suitable water supplies for brewing, like Burton-on-Trent, then I'm not sure using heavily treated water from taps in places where quality is poor is going to produce an authentic, good quality flavoured beer.

But I'd be willing to give it a shot.
Al Gorithum said:
I'd give it a go. Must admit though that every (IIRC) German beer I've tried has been disappointing. No excuse for that really when Belgium is next door beer
On first glance I thought I'd also give it a go, but then realised its a 0% alcohol beer, so on that basis, I'll be giving it a miss!
Yes I spotted that too, but at the end of the article it states there will be alcoholic versions soon.

zbc

912 posts

161 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Bannock said:
Yes I spotted that too, but at the end of the article it states there will be alcoholic versions soon.
I read that bit too but I don't see how that works as alcohol is a liquid unless I'm missing something.

DoctorX

7,633 posts

177 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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zbc said:
I read that bit too but I don't see how that works as alcohol is a liquid unless I'm missing something.
Nope, ethanol is a liquid - it only comes in solid form if frozen. I can't see how this will work unless it is generated in situ or they provide a shot to spike it with.

RichFN2

3,817 posts

189 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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I used to brew my own beer and 1 big issue will be your water profile, if you live in a hard water area the lighter beers will not be up to standard until you start using chemicals etc to adjust the profile (dark beers will be fine)

The other big issue is the lack of alcohol, to get that you will need yeast to work it's magic on the sugar. That will take up to 2 weeks and needs to be at a steady temperature (ideally 20 degree's for ale)

Edited to add there is the Co2 issue if you want a fizzy beer, you either force carbonate or bottle condition which is what I did. I guess if you have a soda stream then you might be ok...

Personally I think it will taste horrendous

Edited by RichFN2 on Monday 27th March 19:18

wyson

2,970 posts

114 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Turtle Shed said:
Reminds me of the powdered milkshake scene in The Founder (possibly my favourite film of all time, certainly top five):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5uadToINEY
What are the other 4?

I don’t think I’d try it. The water from a place makes a difference to the flavour profile. Will it go with London tap, or would I have to buy some sort of specific water? In which case, why not just put it in a can or a bottle with the liquid.

otolith

59,863 posts

214 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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To actual beer as instant is to actual coffee.

NWTony

2,876 posts

238 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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DoctorX said:
zbc said:
I read that bit too but I don't see how that works as alcohol is a liquid unless I'm missing something.
Nope, ethanol is a liquid - it only comes in solid form if frozen. I can't see how this will work unless it is generated in situ or they provide a shot to spike it with.
I can't remember the molecule but it is possible for a material to react with water to produce ethanol.

Found it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_powder

soad

33,579 posts

186 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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otolith said:
To actual beer as instant is to actual coffee.
yes

Gargamel

15,282 posts

271 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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It’s been tried before, and by all of the big brewers. Don’t think anyone h]ever got it to an acceptable taste.

Hard to imagine a situation where you are so desperate for a beer, that you will accept a powdered non alcoholic one and like it.

Cotty

40,647 posts

294 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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That would make it difficult to police for events like concerts, shows, cinema, O2 etc. Oh yes its just water, with a couple of packets of this smuggled in.

Gargamel

15,282 posts

271 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Cotty said:
That would make it difficult to police for events like concerts, shows, cinema, O2 etc. Oh yes its just water, with a couple of packets of this smuggled in.
It’s alcohol free.

Cotty

40,647 posts

294 months

Monday 27th March 2023
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Gargamel said:
It’s alcohol free.
Did you read the link? It says
"It's testing this powder on the market in small quantities until mid-2023, but the plan is to start making alcoholic beers soon, and scale things up"

Tim330

1,192 posts

222 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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Cotty said:
Gargamel said:
It’s alcohol free.
Did you read the link? It says
"It's testing this powder on the market in small quantities until mid-2023, but the plan is to start making alcoholic beers soon, and scale things up"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_powder

I had no idea this was possible. I'll stick with traditional beer I think

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

77 months

Tuesday 28th March 2023
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soad said:
otolith said:
To actual beer as instant is to actual coffee.
yes
Yeah, they've had a lot of years practice at instant coffee and it's a huge global market yet it still all tastes like shyte (if real coffee is the standard)

And beers an even more complex product!

The article talks about trying it in Africa etc as theres less beer snobbery - hello - you're scared to try it in a territory where the most popular beer is Carling?laugh

dickymint

26,272 posts

268 months

Friday 31st March 2023
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Tim330 said:
Cotty said:
Gargamel said:
It’s alcohol free.
Did you read the link? It says
"It's testing this powder on the market in small quantities until mid-2023, but the plan is to start making alcoholic beers soon, and scale things up"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_powder

I had no idea this was possible. I'll stick with traditional beer I think


If you can't wait for the alcohol version then make your own..............