THE STEAK THREAD, served a la Man

THE STEAK THREAD, served a la Man

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UTH

9,330 posts

184 months

Sunday 10th September 2023
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UTH said:
Semmelweiss said:
UTH said:
Taking a different approach, marinating overnight before cooking on my new mini Weber charcoal. Hope it’s not a disaster.

Hot as hell, take no prisoners with heat.

Enjoy and post your results and your thoughts.
Will do. Probably this time tomorrow. Wondering if 30hours marinating might be too much though?
Here’s the result. First time using this BBQ and annoyingly I overcooked them a bit. Ribeye medium at best and rump probably medium to well.
Not sure I’d bother marinating next time, although the meat was very tender so maybe the vinegar did some work?







Semmelweiss

1,725 posts

202 months

Sunday 10th September 2023
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More heat, for that size of pieces of meat you need Dante's Inferno. You cannot have too much.

Wadeski

8,310 posts

219 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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With the weber i use a charcoal basket on one side to keep a fierce heat concentrated. Then have a cool side of the grill without coals.

Sear the steak on both sides, then move to the cool side and cover with all vents open. The result is like finishing a pan steak in a hot oven to desired doenness.

Semmelweiss

1,725 posts

202 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Wadeski said:
With the weber i use a charcoal basket on one side to keep a fierce heat concentrated. Then have a cool side of the grill without coals.

Sear the steak on both sides, then move to the cool side and cover with all vents open. The result is like finishing a pan steak in a hot oven to desired doenness.
Ditto, other than reverse sear. I have a less hot side and Inferno end.

Greshamst

2,182 posts

126 months

Saturday 16th September 2023
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The beauty of a kettle bbq is it doesn’t matter if you’ve only been provided with a £30 small job from Argos, you can still make a cracking steak on it




illmonkey

18,487 posts

204 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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Top effort above!

Right, nothing for a week. I come along with my little Sainsbury’s £6 jobby and it’ll be flooded with £100 chateaubriand in seconds!

Reverse seared as I still think it counts, it’s so tender. I keep forgetting to just pan fry it to test.

Done too many spuds so I can dip them in the remaining sauce when I visit the kitchen, for a top up, whilst catching up on the f1.

Peas, obvs.






8bit

4,973 posts

161 months

Sunday 24th September 2023
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illmonkey said:
Top effort above!

Right, nothing for a week. I come along with my little Sainsbury’s £6 jobby and it’ll be flooded with £100 chateaubriand in seconds!

Reverse seared as I still think it counts, it’s so tender. I keep forgetting to just pan fry it to test.

Done too many spuds so I can dip them in the remaining sauce when I visit the kitchen, for a top up, whilst catching up on the f1.

Peas, obvs.





That looks tremendous! Pretty much what I was hoping for for dinner tonight but I never made it to the butcher due to being stuck at work all day until pretty much tea time. We ended up going out to a nice Thai restaurant and I had Weeping Tiger Steak - not bad but not as dark on the crust, other than the sear marks from the grill. The sauce that it came with was amazing though, must have a crack at that sometime...

On a related note, any good suggestions for online butcher's shops? I can't find skirt steak locally and keen to try that, also Wagyu...

C70R

17,596 posts

110 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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The inside of that steak is perfect for me. I'd have liked more of a crust/bark on the outside, but that's just splitting hairs at this stage. Suspect a nuclear wok burner would do the job, but I'm sure it tasted grand.

illmonkey

18,487 posts

204 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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That was in a cast iron pan on high gas for 10 mins before throwing it in to brown. Annoyingly my weight doesn’t fit that pan.

I’d have liked more brown but didnt want it to cook more.

C70R

17,596 posts

110 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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illmonkey said:
That was in a cast iron pan on high gas for 10 mins before throwing it in to brown. Annoyingly my weight doesn’t fit that pan.

I’d have liked more brown but didnt want it to cook more.
Ah, the weight would have likely solved it. Either way, the insides are perfect.

Acorn1

833 posts

26 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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What's the best internal temperature for reverse sear before you sear in the pan/bbq?

UTH

9,330 posts

184 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Acorn1 said:
What's the best internal temperature for reverse sear before you sear in the pan/bbq?
Personally this never fails:

Oven set to 110, internal temp in oven 46, sear in pan to 54.

illmonkey

18,487 posts

204 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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C70R said:
illmonkey said:
That was in a cast iron pan on high gas for 10 mins before throwing it in to brown. Annoyingly my weight doesn’t fit that pan.

I’d have liked more brown but didnt want it to cook more.
Ah, the weight would have likely solved it. Either way, the insides are perfect.
Reverse seared wink

I’ll use my big pan next time so can weight it.

Acorn1

833 posts

26 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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UTH said:
Acorn1 said:
What's the best internal temperature for reverse sear before you sear in the pan/bbq?
Personally this never fails:

Oven set to 110, internal temp in oven 46, sear in pan to 54.
Thank you, I have a very thick cut ribeye in the freezer, will give it a try.

8bit

4,973 posts

161 months

Monday 25th September 2023
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Acorn1 said:
What's the best internal temperature for reverse sear before you sear in the pan/bbq?
Totally depends on how well done you like your steak. I like medium rare for leaner cuts (about 45 internal), medium for fattier ones (48 to 50).

illmonkey

18,487 posts

204 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Tonight we put the question everyone is asking; is it worth reverse searing small steaks?

2 steaks, a matching pair, no less. Treated the same. 1 to be reverse seared, one to only see the pan.

The big boy cast iron pan has also come to play, hopefully get a good sear with this.

Watch this space.


eyebeebe

3,128 posts

239 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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illmonkey said:
Tonight we put the question everyone is asking; is it worth reverse searing small steaks?

2 steaks, a matching pair, no less. Treated the same. 1 to be reverse seared, one to only see the pan.

The big boy cast iron pan has also come to play, hopefully get a good sear with this.

Watch this space.

Next question… to dry brine the small steaks or not. laugh

illmonkey

18,487 posts

204 months

Friday 6th October 2023
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Careful now, I’ll have to eat steaks every meal!

The results are in and it’s extra obvious that reverse searing adds at least 10% quality to the steak. (Results may very +/- 11% wink)

I would say the reverse seared (RIGHT) was less chewy and the fat rendered a bit more, but the pan only (LEFT) had a better colour and ‘leaked’ less.

Pulled at 48, additional official Olympic temperatures probe used for verification


Big boy pan and steak weight. The reverse sear had 1 min a side, pan only was 2 mins a side. SMOKIN’, somebody stop me!






Blurry leaky shot






In conclusion. Steak; fk yeah!

Wadeski

8,310 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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this is an interesting video, basically debunking the impact of butter-basting steak...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC6VBDJlm4w

ferret50

1,461 posts

15 months

Saturday 7th October 2023
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illmonkey said:
Careful now, I’ll have to eat steaks every meal!





In conclusion. Steak; fk yeah!
Peas!

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Lots and lots of peas!

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