Libya No-Fly Zone - What will we send?
Libya No-Fly Zone - What will we send?
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davepoth

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29,395 posts

228 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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I guess either the Tornadoes or the Typhoons since we don't have anything else, but which would we send?

Simpo Two

92,641 posts

294 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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I wouldn't send anything. We've got out fingers into many Middle Eastern pies already. Let them fight it out, best man wins.

dr_gn

16,923 posts

213 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Simpo Two said:
best man wins.
Best *armed* man wins...

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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i'm sure we could dispatch either our NAVY assets:



or our airforce assets:


randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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They've already got one of our helicopters. Give that back, and they can have some Harriers biggrin

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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I thought we sold a rook of planes to the Saudis and the rest in that area for them to do their own 'work', seems like the arab league are up for a bit http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-0... so we can keep out of it smile.

No more ammunition for the muslim brotherhood saying it's all the wests doing/fault again rolleyes

Just more sales/exports for us smile when they get shot down, let the arabs sort it, or are they too busy in Bahrain now trying to all the wealth amongst the top 0.00001% or something along those lines rolleyes

Pugland53

574 posts

199 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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I have to agree, why can't the Arabs sort this out, it's in their back yard.

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

241 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Well, the R1s and their crews already got a temporary reprieve from their redundancy - make of that what you will smile

db

724 posts

198 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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UN backing to no fly zone approved
i'd guess tornados first and once things calm down, a couple of typhoons for a show of force and in-field development

sanf

673 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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I gather the government are keen for the Harriers on Ark Royal to be used to patrol the no fly zone, and Nimrods are going to patrol the coast line.....ooops seem to have misplaced them rolleyes

How about the abundance of F3 Tornado's....could be just in the nick of time to keep some in service, and hay we still have one airworthy Vulcan and some Hunters in private hands, think there are a couple of spare aiworthy Lightnings kicking around in Leicestershire and South Africa as well banghead

Government didn't see this coming in the defence review...

LukeSi

5,780 posts

190 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Well if the worst comes to the worst we can always use XH558 for bombing and the Victor at Bruntingthorpe for re-fueling. We know they both fly and I imagine it wouldn't take much to arm XH558 and sort the re-fueling equipment on the victor.

On a serious note it will probably be a combination of both the Tornados and the Typhoons. I wonder how long it is until they decide we need to actually have more than one plane and a little dinghy for our military forces.

Oh we actually still have two Nimrod R1s. Bloody good job. And there is probably still time (just) to save the Ark Royal. Harriers could have the decommissioning cancelled and be brought back active quick enough I could imagine. But still they would need to hire back all the pilots they made redundant first.

Edited by LukeSi on Thursday 17th March 23:31

ninja-lewis

5,406 posts

219 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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LukeSi said:
Well if the worst comes to the worst we can always use XH558 for bombing and the Victor at Bruntingthorpe for re-fueling. We know they both fly and I imagine it wouldn't take much to arm XH558 and sort the re-fueling equipment on the victor.

On a serious note it will probably be a combination of both the Tornados and the Typhoons. I wonder how long it is until they decide we need to actually have more than one plane and a little dinghy for our military forces.

Oh we actually still have two Nimrod R1s. Bloody good job. And there is probably still time (just) to save the Ark Royal. Harriers could have the decommissioning cancelled and be brought back active quick enough I could imagine. But still they would need to hire back all the pilots they made redundant first.

Edited by LukeSi on Thursday 17th March 23:31
Harriers wouldn't be much use for a NFZ with the Sea Harrier long gone.

Change of destination tomorrow?

ErnestM

11,621 posts

296 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Reuters reports that the Italians are making bases available.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

224 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Hopefully they send the Typhoon, let it smack about anything in the area, and shut the army up about it being useless!

In my opinion, work up a squadron in air to ground, paint the jets green and call the squadron number whatever squadron army cooperation. Bingo, not spent very much and got the army backing your jets.

BerksBoy

130 posts

256 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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even money it being Typhoons based in Italy or Malta.

Lucky enough to chat to some Typhoon drivers in Abu Dhabi before christmas. They were out there play fighting with the UAE airforce, who have some trick kit by all accounts!... There seems to be enough hardware flying under Arab colours already (UAE, KSA etc) and without "their" support of a NFZ, we do run the risk of looking like we are messing on other people's turf.

I we get a little help from the locals and all our chaps come back safe and sound

Simpo Two

92,641 posts

294 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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dr_gn said:
Best *armed* man wins...
Often but not always, it's the size of the fight in the dog.

But I think the elephant in the room is Saudi Arabia. If that falls into civil unrest...

aeropilot

40,504 posts

256 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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I will be surprised if we end up sending anything....

As, BBC are reporting that MP's will be debating and voting on this in the house next week, and even if they vote in favour, and then the 'go' is made for a deployment, with setup times needed etc., I suspect, Gadaffy Duck will have finished quelling his rebellious natives by then, and there will be no need for a UK contribution to a NFZ.


JonnyFive

29,895 posts

218 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Mr Dave said:
Hopefully they send the Typhoon, let it smack about anything in the area, and shut the army up about it being useless!
Is this their first proper use or have they been out in Iraq/Afghanistan already?

Simpo Two

92,641 posts

294 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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aeropilot said:
I will be surprised if we end up sending anything...
I think so. Possibly deliberate; the longer they spend talking about it, the more likely it will blow over and we won't have to send/spend anything. But it sends the right 'message'... (since the Blair days messages seem to be more important than actions). 'We're on your side rebels, good luck!'.

JonnyFive

29,895 posts

218 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Simpo Two said:
aeropilot said:
I will be surprised if we end up sending anything...
I think so. Possibly deliberate; the longer they spend talking about it, the more likely it will blow over and we won't have to send/spend anything. But it sends the right 'message'... (since the Blair days messages seem to be more important than actions). 'We're on your side rebels, good luck!'.
But won't it now look like we've let Gadaffi slaughter the rebels, as we've said we'll back them up, and then let them get their asses kicked down..