So how good a pilot is Jay Kay?
So how good a pilot is Jay Kay?
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Streetrod

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6,483 posts

235 months

Monday 31st January 2011
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Hi guys I am a huge music fan of Jay Kay and we all know what a massive petrol head he is but I did not realise he could fly until I came across this video today. Do any of you know if he did all the flying in this vid and does anyone know how good he is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ1KOqkJBhM&fea...

Todzilla

237 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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He flys in to a pub/restaurant near where my outlaws live - www.sircharlesnapier.co.uk - quite regulalry (apparently), seems a tad excessive as he only lives the other side of the valley!

Fun video too - reminded me a lot of Cosmic Girl.

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Don't know, but I believe JK is a competent ppl(h). He owns the R44 RII, but I think Heli air at Wycombe operate it.

However, in all likelihood, the video will have dovetailed some shots of JK flying the helicopter, with a professional doing the fancy work. These things are closely regulated.

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

311 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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dont think thats a real rs is it? did they have sunroofs?

Rock dust light star is the best I've heard from him in years I think.

Todzilla

237 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I seem to recall articles about it (the RS) when he first bought it and it was real from memory...

CraigVmax

12,248 posts

311 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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me too, maybe they did a "touring" or something

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Yes, it is a genuine rhd/uk 2.7RS.

There were, ostensibly four versions - the very basic RSH, which were submitted for homologation then converted into their intended spec - the M491 RSRs (50 odd with the 2.8 engine and wider body, again mainly for racing), the RS 'Sports' (200 of these - aka M471 'lightweight'- probably only 100 left) and the rest, about 1,300, were M472 'Tourings' which were in road going spec with various options - and, yes, some did have sunroofs.

Remarkable cars, even today.

CTjockey

47 posts

191 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Here it is at the Aero Expo at Wycombe last summer. I didn't see the man himself there, guess he was too busy to attend....
That colour scheme certainly stands out wobble


Todzilla

237 posts

204 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Just noticed that helicopters registration number...

wolves_wanderer

12,950 posts

266 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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I bumped into him when he flew into Compton Abbas a while ago. I would be suprised if he did all the flying in that video unless he has done a crop dusting course, improved substantially and has an enormously understanding insurance company.

Edit, not saying he flew badly.

Zad

13,005 posts

265 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Urgh, all that money and he flies a Robinson? Horrible rattly little things, far better to invest a little more time in a turbine rating and get a Jet Ranger (or a time share if he is feeling especially skint).

GT3ZZZ

1,007 posts

199 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Was at Porsche Silverstone a couple of years ago picking up my car from a service. The guys there were clearing the used cars away so that he could land his Robinson in the car park. He was picking up an orange GT3 RS which he'd just bought. One of his entourage who all arrived in a Defender flew the helicopter out.

ditchvisitor

1,238 posts

250 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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He has a CPL (H) too wink a mate didnt believe him and so he ended up explaining vortex ring to prove a point!!

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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ditchvisitor said:
He has a CPL (H) too wink a mate didnt believe him and so he ended up explaining vortex ring to prove a point!!
CPL(H)? Are you sure about that? PPL's are supposed to understand Vortex Ring.

eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Tuesday 1st February 2011
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Geneve said:
CPL(H)? Are you sure about that? PPL's are supposed to understand Vortex Ring.
That's what I thought as well, but being a plank driver I wasn't sure.

Although there was a botched avalanche at Duxford a few years ago that turned into an inadvertant tumble when I'm sure I experienced vortex ring - at least, it certainly tried to devour my underpants.

Edited by eharding on Tuesday 1st February 23:49

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Zad said:
Urgh, all that money and he flies a Robinson? Horrible rattly little things, far better to invest a little more time in a turbine rating and get a Jet Ranger (or a time share if he is feeling especially skint).
Friend of mine fly's a 44. He's been looking at a 66 but decided against it as there's a lot less places to get Jet A1 than Avgas. Good point really ;-)

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Funnily enough, Frank Robinson gave the Cierva Lecture at the Royal Aeronautical Society in October, and cited the future demise of Avgas as as his incentive for the R66 Turbine. Jet A-1 is readily available throughout the UK and easier to get than Avgas in many parts of the world.

The jury is out on the R66, until it is established in service. Will no doubt appeal to many Robinson operators, but probabably not the Robinson cynics. Bell 206 is getting a bit long in the tooth now. If Jay Kay goes turbine I think he'll be more attracted to the performance and handling of a Gazelle or an MD500.

wolves_wanderer

12,950 posts

266 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Geneve said:
ditchvisitor said:
He has a CPL (H) too wink a mate didnt believe him and so he ended up explaining vortex ring to prove a point!!
CPL(H)? Are you sure about that? PPL's are supposed to understand Vortex Ring.
You have to understand the principle and recovery.

wolves_wanderer

12,950 posts

266 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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Geneve said:
The jury is out on the R66, until it is established in service. Will no doubt appeal to many Robinson operators, but probabably not the Robinson cynics. Bell 206 is getting a bit long in the tooth now. If Jay Kay goes turbine I think he'll be more attracted to the performance and handling of a Gazelle or an MD500.
I've just watched a couple of vids on youtube. The startup looks like simplicity itself and the layout is very similar to the 22 and 44. For a cheap turbine personal machine or trainer I think it will do very well.

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Wednesday 2nd February 2011
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ditchvisitor said:
He has a CPL (H) too wink a mate didnt believe him and so he ended up explaining vortex ring to prove a point!!
He'd need a CPL if he wanted to pay himself for appearing in his own video laugh