Royal Navy 100 - Flypast Greenwich 7 May 12pm

[anonymous-user]

NOTAM (Notice To Airmen) posted for tomorrow's flypast.

Flypast is due over Greenwich at 12:00 Midday

FYI

Times are GMT, add an hour for BST.

Q) EGTT/QWVLW/IV/M/W/000/025/5130N00015E025CEREMONIAL FLYPAST AT 5129N 00001W (GREENWICH - LONDON) BY MIL HEL,
JETSTREAM AND HAWK ACFT HDG FM E TO W AT 1100. PRIOR TO FLYPAST HEL
WILL ROUTE FM RAF NORTHOLT N OF LONDON CTR TO ASSEMBLE AT 5132N
00015E (DAMYNS HALL AIRFIELD), JETSTREAM ACFT WILL HOLD IN VCY OF
5127N 00020E (NORTHFLEET) AND HAWK ACFT WILL HOLD IN VCY 5125N 00047E
(ISLE OF SHEPPEY). FOLLOWING FLYPAST HEL WILL ROUTE TO RAF NORTHOLT
VIA HEL-ROUTES H3, H4 AND H10. JETSTREAM ACFT WILL ROUTE VIA 5129N
00008W (VAUXHALL BRIDGE) AND 5120N 00013W (BANSTEAD) THEN TO RAF
ODIHAM. HAWK ACFT WILL ROUTE VIA 5120N 00002E (BIGGIN HILL) THEN TO
RNAS YEOVILTON. AUS 2009-05-0022/AS1.LOWER: SFCUPPER: 2500FT AMSLH1110/09FROM: 07 MAY 2009 10:35 TO: 07 MAY 2009 11:15

[Shar2]

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's not the RN's 100th aniversary, it's the FAA's 100th aniversary.

[anonymous-user]

Yep, sorry, should be Fly Navy 100

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support...

[topsparks]

That explains all the choppers flying over my yard!(on Northolt approach)

[Eric Mc]

Shar2 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's not the RN's 100th aniversary, it's the FAA's 100th aniversary.

I thought that the FAA only formally came into being in the 1930s. There had been the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) which operated from just before WW1 up until it merged with the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) in 1918 to form the Royal Air Force (RAF).

I can't recal;l the exact year the RNAS was set up. Perhaps it was 1909?

[cjs]

topsparks said:

That explains all the choppers flying over my yard!(on Northolt approach)

Yes, loads going over my house this morning, woke me up!

[Shar2]

Eric Mc said:

Shar2 said:

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's not the RN's 100th aniversary, it's the FAA's 100th aniversary.

I thought that the FAA only formally came into being in the 1930s. There had been the Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) which operated from just before WW1 up until it merged with the Royal Flying Corps (RFC) in 1918 to form the Royal Air Force (RAF).

I can't recal;l the exact year the RNAS was set up. Perhaps it was 1909?

Well we include the time as the RNAS in the calculations. That way we beat the RAF

[Eric Mc]

I've just done a quick Google on the various dates and they are as follows -

Royal Flying Corps (British Army) - 1912
Royal Naval Air Service - 1914
Royal Air Force - 1918
Naval Branch Royal Air Force - 1918
Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm - 1937

I can't exactly see what event occured in 1909 which the Navy has decided mark the cause for a 100th Anniversary celebration.

I know Cody carried out manned kite experiments for the Navy around that time and a number of Naval officers, on their own initiative and at their own cost, took flying lessons from the few private flying schools which had already been set up around the country by enthusiasts.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 7th May 09:45

[Shar2]

It explains it here.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support...

[Eric Mc]

I see. They are taking the date of the placing of the order for the airship Mayfly (the 7th May 1909) as the official date of the Birth of Naval Aviation.

The fact that the Mayfly never actually flew may be a bit incovenient for the anniversary. It was rolled out of its shed for the first time in 1911 and almost immediately broke in two when a gust of wind blew it against the hangar opening.

[Shar2]

Eric Mc said:

I see. They are taking the date of the placing of the order for the airship Mayfly (the 7th May 1909) as the official date of the Birth of Naval Aviation.

The fact that the Mayfly never actually flew may be a bit incovenient for the anniversary. It was rolled out of its shed for the first time in 1911 and almost immediately broke in two when a gust of wind blew it against the hangar opening.

Whatever! We'll do anything to beat the crabs from saying they were first . Being ex-FAA the celebrations I've been to have been great.

[Eric Mc]

The Army were first - really. They had been operating balloons and kites before the end of the 19th Century through Cody's experiments and the Royal Engineers here in Farnborough.

When did the Navy actually get something successfully into the air?

[cjs]

cjs said:

topsparks said:

That explains all the choppers flying over my yard!(on Northolt approach)

Yes, loads going over my house this morning, woke me up!

Helicopter Heaven in West London, just had 24 flying low over my house, made my windows shake!

[anonymous-user]

Am currently at Greenwich, 17 helos went over langdon hills a while ago.

[Shar2]

Eric Mc said:

The Army were first - really. They had been operating balloons and kites before the end of the 19th Century through Cody's experiments and the Royal Engineers here in Farnborough.

When did the Navy actually get something successfully into the air?

I know, but we don't count them as they are not a single Royal entitiy.

If anyone is taking me seriously over the jibes, DON'T, I'm just taking the pith at our forces cousins expense. It's all done in the best posible taste.

[Eric Mc]

I wonder how much ribbing goes on in the Joint Force Harrier Squadrons. I bet the mess must be very lively.

[MK4 Slowride]

Eric Mc said:

The Army were first - really. They had been operating balloons and kites before the end of the 19th Century through Cody's experiments and the Royal Engineers here in Farnborough.

When did the Navy actually get something successfully into the air?

Was it not 1917 when they catapulted them off the side of battleships as the air war intensified?

[Eric Mc]

MK4 Slowride said:

Eric Mc said:

The Army were first - really. They had been operating balloons and kites before the end of the 19th Century through Cody's experiments and the Royal Engineers here in Farnborough.

When did the Navy actually get something successfully into the air?

Was it not 1917 when they catapulted them off the side of battleships as the air war intensified?

I think catapults go back a bit before that. The bulk of Naval aircraft used in WW1 were land based or sea planes. The sea planes were usually shore based or lifted onto the decks of sea plane tenders by cranes.

The first ever take off from a ship was by the American Eugene Ely in 1911.

[Oily Nails]

Eric Mc said:

MK4 Slowride said:

Eric Mc said:

The Army were first - really. They had been operating balloons and kites before the end of the 19th Century through Cody's experiments and the Royal Engineers here in Farnborough.

When did the Navy actually get something successfully into the air?

Was it not 1917 when they catapulted them off the side of battleships as the air war intensified?

I think catapults go back a bit before that. The bulk of Naval aircraft used in WW1 were land based or sea planes. The sea planes were usually shore based or lifted onto the decks of sea plane tenders by cranes.

The first ever take off from a ship was by the American Eugene Ely in 1911.

Isn't it the 100th anniversay of the RN putting funds aside for an Airship..the origin of the Fleet Air Arm

[Eric Mc]

I think stretching it to include the Fleet Air Arm is too tenuous. The FAA wasn't formally created until 1937. The FAA was, in fact, originally a division of the newly created RAF where it was known as the RAF Naval Branch.
It began to be referred to unofficially as the Fleet Air Arm in around 1924 but it was still under Air Ministry (as opposed to Admiralty) control until 1937.