Airbus 340-600 accident?
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I read on some website that an Arab flight crew who had never bothered reading the manual crashed a brand new A340-600 by powering it up with the brakes on and then disabling the circuit that controlled the warning buzzers...and control systems 
. Aircraft ends up needing more than a polish:
Seems unlikly though that anyone would be that inept or allowed to operate an aircraft without reading the manual? So what is the truth?
. Aircraft ends up needing more than a polish:Seems unlikly though that anyone would be that inept or allowed to operate an aircraft without reading the manual? So what is the truth?
Classic case of RTFM if ever there was one 
However i doubt that is the truth, Pilots are required to do hours "on type" so i don't see it myself. Maybe something like they misread instructions in the flight manual in a certain proceedure they had to carry out and that has now been exagerated.
However i doubt that is the truth, Pilots are required to do hours "on type" so i don't see it myself. Maybe something like they misread instructions in the flight manual in a certain proceedure they had to carry out and that has now been exagerated.
Not quite, but truth be told, the story is even better.
Airbus themselves wrecked it at Toulouse a few days before delivery to Eithad. The plane was scrapped.
Well done indeed!
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/11/19/21...
Airbus themselves wrecked it at Toulouse a few days before delivery to Eithad. The plane was scrapped.
Well done indeed!
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/11/19/21...
That happened a while back.
It was on a full power ground engine run, testing the aircraft prior to delviery; the Etihad pilots who were going to collect it were actually at Toulouse inspecting the aircraft!
Anyhow, it had a problem and ended up going through one of the walls...
I have the report somewhere!
It was on a full power ground engine run, testing the aircraft prior to delviery; the Etihad pilots who were going to collect it were actually at Toulouse inspecting the aircraft!
Anyhow, it had a problem and ended up going through one of the walls...
I have the report somewhere!
.The plane did not have a problem, the crew removed a circuit that deactivated the buzzers that warned them that they were at take off thrust and the flaps weren't in the take off position and that the parking brake was on. When they did this the plane then though it was in the air so it took off the parking brake.
The crew didn't think to throttle back until two seconds before impact, they had been at full thrust for eleven seconds!
I bet they didn't get their bonus that year!
Bubba
The crew didn't think to throttle back until two seconds before impact, they had been at full thrust for eleven seconds!
I bet they didn't get their bonus that year!
Bubba
Jasandjules said:
hugoagogo said:
the conveyor belt jammed
I think the problem here appears to be the conveyor belt was in full working order, it was the wall at the end of the belt that was the problem...
maybe the engineers were the types who said "Of course it won't move! the conveyor cancels the force"
mark69sheer said:
Another airbus computer related crash. . worrying.
Their automated TOGA routine is scary too and has caused crashes that pilots can't overide.
Are you referring to the Mulhouse crash, caught on video in 1988? That was pilot error (inappropriate height, airspeed, angle of attack and thrust settings), not a fault of the aircraft.Their automated TOGA routine is scary too and has caused crashes that pilots can't overide.
mark69sheer said:
Another airbus computer related crash. . worrying.
Their automated TOGA routine is scary too and has caused crashes that pilots can't overide.
I always thought the airbus computers were very good. Only heard of problems when people decide to do something silly/odd/unusual that the computer wasn't told about.Their automated TOGA routine is scary too and has caused crashes that pilots can't overide.
Taffer said:
mark69sheer said:
Another airbus computer related crash. . worrying.
Their automated TOGA routine is scary too and has caused crashes that pilots can't overide.
Are you referring to the Mulhouse crash, caught on video in 1988? That was pilot error (inappropriate height, airspeed, angle of attack and thrust settings), not a fault of the aircraft.Their automated TOGA routine is scary too and has caused crashes that pilots can't overide.
No not refering to mullhouse . Refering to sccidents where the toga lever is pushed and then pilots crash because the system then doesn't allow manual input leading to loss of throttle control and wing flaps.
Taffer said:
Are you referring to the Mulhouse crash, caught on video in 1988? That was pilot error (inappropriate height, airspeed, angle of attack and thrust settings), not a fault of the aircraft.
That's an overly simplistic summary of the crash. Crashes are very rarely the result of one thing, pilot error,"the computer", or any other glib title people like to give. If you read up on that event there were many other factors leading up to and contributing to the event.
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